Jan 04, 2005 07:44 pm www.analogx.com I am sure he has something like that...
Pitch Shifter for Vocals?
Posted on Jan 04, 2005 06:53 pm
rkruz
Member Since: Sep 02, 2004
Im looking for a plug-in DirectX or vST that will allow me to change pitch.
To by in key with song when lowering pitch do you have to lower 1 octive or can in increments of semitones.?
any tips appreciated.
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Jan 04, 2005 09:00 pm What software are you recoding with? Most of the good apps have a pitch pluggin built into them. Sonar has one of the better ones, as does SoundForge.
Jan 04, 2005 09:32 pm Now dont laugh. Im using Power Tracks Pro. I know its not a power user tool. But its works great for me and I know how to use it. Yes. It does come with a pitch shifter..I guess I thought it was working that well so I thought to try another better one.
How far can I move the pitch and still be in Key with the vocal. Does it have to be a whole octave or can I move in increments of semitones?
Thanks
Jan 04, 2005 09:55 pm Nope no laughing here at all.
As for adjusting the pitch, most apps will allow you to adjust in cent or semitones. Usually out to one octave. As dB stated, I would for sure go check what analogX has or referances. There are a few free ones out there, but not to many.
Jan 04, 2005 09:59 pm OK...thanks. but how much should it change to still be in the correct key for the song....assuming it was originally recorded at proper key
thank!
Jan 04, 2005 10:54 pm Well you certainly want it to stay in harmony with the vocal of the song. I cant tell how much that is. That will be determined by you when you start udjusting the pitch of what ever it is. you will know if it is on key or not.
Jan 04, 2005 11:06 pm If you want to stay in tune with a given key you can only alter the pitch a few cents. Up to about 10 cents will still sound pretty much in tune especially if your using it to thicken vocals (original vocal + the pitch shifted one). If you wanted to be exactly in key you would have to shift an octave up or down.
Harmonies, would normall be 3rd's, 5th's, 7th's etc.
Dan
Jan 05, 2005 12:35 am OK.. moving in semitones is out of key.
So tell me this, how do I change a female voice to male. If I drop 1 whole octave its way way too low. To change a voice to male you have to move 1 octave?
Are there other ways to gender change and still be in key with dropping a complete octave?
Any thoughts for sofware that will do that?
The referred to earlier does not have a plug in for pitch shifting that I could tell.
thanks again
Jan 05, 2005 02:50 am Wow, that's wierd, never heard of someone trying to make a woman's voice male. Maybe try slowing the speed of the vocal, and/or eqing it. Though I admit, these are just shots in the dark.
Jan 05, 2005 03:53 am There are programs that will change vocal gender but in my experience they sound pretty hokey. You can try CloneEnsemble.
www.cloneensemble.com/
Dan
Jan 05, 2005 05:19 am yamahas pitch fix plug in will do this prety well, though its a vst, and i dont believe they work in Pro Tools...
Jan 05, 2005 11:45 am how does Pitch Fix do that without changing the pitch? I need the vocal to fit within the existing backing track key.
thanks.
Jan 05, 2005 11:55 am itll just drop or raise the part by whole octaves, so something in the key of c for example stays in c...just a lower c.
Jan 05, 2005 07:27 pm It sounds to me like you are wanting a harmonizer rather than a pitch shifter. A pitch shifter just follows the original signal at a set interval. A harmonizer will change the interval according to the key selected, and degree. However if all you have is a pitch shifter, sometimes you can get away with moving down a forth or a fifth(depending on how you look at it), but it just depends on the song and where the singer is singing it and so on. For example:
If you were playing in "a-minor" and your cord progression went: "a-minor, G-Major, F-Major, e-minor and your singer was singing an "A,G,F,E" along with the cords. You could move a pitch shifter down five semitones so it would be:"E,D,C,B"... wether it would sound good or not is another story, but it would be in key. If you use the same chord progression as above, but the singer was singing: "E,D,C,B" then you could set the pitch shifter 7 semitones lower and it would be"A,G,F,E" and it would be in key.... it still might not sound good. Like was said earlier, an octive will always work as long as the singer is in key.
Jan 05, 2005 09:43 pm Hey OD, HRC is in that guys links directory. Do you know who he is? Is he a member here? Just curious, I dont remember haveing him in our links, but he will be now.
Jan 05, 2005 11:03 pm I don't know, I came across that quite sometime ago. I do remember posting about it before when I think dB was looking for something that would do that, so maybe dB contacted him?
Dan
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