Looking for vintage sound
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Posted on Dec 12, 2002 03:13 am
Karmachild
Member Since: Dec 12, 2002
I record simultaneous guitar and vocal using one channel, one track, and one mic about three feet away, above me, and angled down. This works beautifully well for me. I've decided to move further in this "old-school" direction and compliment the sound with tube or analog elements to the recording.
My question is this: On a limited budget (very), would it be more beneficial to buy a decent condensor mic or a decent tube pre-amp. (Eventually, I'll have both. But which first, is what I am wondering)
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Dec 12, 2002 05:31 am I think I would probably go for the pre-amp first, as you could, down the raod use that on many things, it will come in very handy...but so will the mic...hmmm, that's a tough one...that more I think about I think I would go for the mic.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Dec 12, 2002 07:56 am For myself, I would price the two options and purchase quality. I hate buying things twice! I used to hurry and buy cheep, then work forever to get up enough money to buy quality. Then I got junk laying around. Besides that, I agree with Db. Both the mic and the pre-amp are quint-essential to a good recording!
Dec 12, 2002 12:48 pm Could you recommend a good quality mic or pre-amp, somewhere in the $100 - $200 range?
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Dec 13, 2002 03:30 pm The mics I have and like are all under 200. They are:
Rode NT1: Very crisp, detailed, 1" condensers. Good for group overheads, drum overheads, some vocals if you want a crisp sound.
Octava 012: Condenser tight patern mic. A little on the tube, vintage, or soft as opposed to crisp side. Great for string, reed, brass, individual or group recording. Really excell for micing individual instruments. Not much good for vocals because of the tight patern.
Octava 319: Vocal mic of the century! Warm, sweet, full. Full 1" condenser with a braud patern giving the singer a lot of movement latitude.
Pre-amps as well as most general gear, I like behringer. Quality is there as well as price.
Happy hunting!
Dec 13, 2002 04:00 pm Because of the extremely amatuer conditions I'm working with, I am looking for the lowest possible noise. However, I'm also looking for a creamy vintage sound (Nat King Cole, Harry Connick Jr., Elvis, and even Chris Isaak). I acknowledge that a lot of these guys are probably using ribbon mics, which I can't afford, but I want as close as I can get. Would you suggest a tube mic, perhaps? I ask because I am aware of the nature, construction, and elemts in detail of these mics, but being an amatuer I have never actually heard one in person (not counting the countless albums I have probably heard them on).
Basically I'm looking to spend about $200, I was planning on getting the $100 ART Tube Pre and a $100 condenser (brand undecide) but I am willing to shell out a little extra to just get the tube mic (which comes with a power supply). What is my best course of action here?
Keep in mind I am recording direct into a Boss BR-532 4-track and have no phantom power.
HELP! I HAVE MONEY TO SPEND AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPEND IT!
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Dec 13, 2002 11:13 pm well if you've a pc based studio you could always use a plugin to add vintage sound in there, such as magneto.
stupeMember
Since: Apr 03, 2002
Dec 14, 2002 01:36 am i would go for the art tube pre and an oktava mk319. word is that they are only 70 dollars or so now. but personally i havent tried it.
cruxTypo SzarMember
Since: Jul 04, 2002
Dec 15, 2002 10:26 am Just a thought... but maybe, u could just dig up an old stereo amp (i got my dads old one from teh 70's) jack one mic into there and mic the speaker of it... just get a good clear speaker, mic it about and inch or 2 away. in my experience it gives a pretty jazz club sound. just hte poors man way i suppose
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 18, 2002 09:05 pm I will only add this. Go for the mic first, and make it the Oktava MK319. they are on sale right now at Musician's Friend which you can link to from here and it give's the site pay back. It is the warmest sounding mic and will give you that warm vintage tone you seek. It is a hand built mic from Russia and I swear by them. They are a very good price and also very versatile. The MK219 is really the same mic, but a little tighter pattern if you want a little more focus to the mic, and it is also on sale even cheaper.
