Speaking of Cubase ......

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A small pie will soon be eaten
Member Since: Aug 26, 2004

I have a problem that i've just been ignoring up untill now within Cubase SX (Version 2).

MIDI tracks don't retain their VST settings when the program is exited. For example one the tracks i use Edirol Super quartet, i set the appropriate MIDI channel within the track to my desired sound and im off and running. however When i exit and re-enter Cubase the VST plugin never remembers i did this and resets to it's defualt.

Am i making any sense ?

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Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Oct 26, 2004 01:06 pm

Perfect sense.

Help Noise!

Sorry, midi terrifies me. Just wanted to pop something in to recognize the post.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Oct 27, 2004 09:58 pm

Sorry for being late.

Walt you can help with this one I think. The settings should be saved as part of the project. Cubase should have a save function that will save all the VST instrument and FX settings along with the audio and what have you. That means it should save all the patches you have sellected for any hardware synths hooked up to it as well. I believe if you go into options/settings probably the main project settings or global settings. There should be an option to save everything including midi channel, patch info as well as any tweaks you made to the synth as well to the song file.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Oct 27, 2004 10:22 pm

doesn't work on some plugins. i had this prob once. i think it depends on the plugin as well as cubase?


A small pie will soon be eaten
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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 28, 2004 10:53 am

Search as i might i can't find the setting to nail this one.

I was going to let it go, but it will become a real problem as i use a lot of MIDI.

It's funny how the audio tracks retain everything.



Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Oct 28, 2004 07:38 pm

WaaaHaaa!
and EEEgad too!

Simply saving the project has always locked down everything for me so far. It has always worked with my 3rd party plugs as well. But as Forty states, maybe there are some that just don't latch? And yes Noise, there is a ton of stuff in there about assigning this to that and the other to this, and yet 32 more levels of assignments to get the whole mess streight. Obviously my knowledge of midi is showing. Most Incredable Daunting Interface per my paradigm. I still havn't had to gehonies to dive into it. I forsee myself with a yo-yo in the corner babbling incoherently. Much more fun to babble incoherently here!

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Oct 28, 2004 10:57 pm

Ya, indeed it must be daunting. In Sonar you simply set it up in the global settings how you wish to save things and it does it every time. I use a huge variety of differant freeware plugs and instruments as well as the full blown synths and such that are not freeware. And it saves the patch and settings of every single one of them without a hitch. I will try and dig a little deeper for ya Bleak and see what I can find.

A small pie will soon be eaten
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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 28, 2004 11:23 pm

I really appreciate the help.

I was thinking of switching to Sonar 3 PE, originally for no other reason than years ago i mucked around in cakewalk.

Maybe this is the time to switch sides :)

A small pie will soon be eaten
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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 29, 2004 02:46 am

I don't suppose there is a plugin or adapter that will have Sonar reading a Cubase project file?

A small pie will soon be eaten
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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 29, 2004 10:00 am

Just letting your know that Edoril (the makers of both of the plugins i used in this example) require you to 'save performamce' in order for all the settings to stick!

problem solved. Thank you again for your help!

I hope i didn't waste you time, i hadn't seen the setting before :)

Cheers




Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Oct 29, 2004 10:35 am

All good stuff to know!

That's the whole point of this place.

Thanks for the follow up!

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Oct 29, 2004 07:29 pm

Allright Bleak, gad to hear ya found it. It would end up being Edirol that is the culprit on that one. I know in mine the Edirol stuff saves just like the other though, but maybe Cubase has differant issues with it.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Oct 29, 2004 09:53 pm

Oh, and for the thing about Cubase reading Sonar files. If Cubase can save in OMF format then indeed you can swap files.

Now this format does not save all the synth presets or anything of that nature. It will only save audio and midi files in its own compression format and can then be opened in any other program that can read that format.

A small pie will soon be eaten
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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 30, 2004 06:15 am

Cheers noize, I stumbled across OMF and tried to give it a crack but it didnt export the MIDI and the whole thing didn't seem to translate well in Sonar!

Doesn't matter though as i seemed to have nailed it in Cubase.

Though i am still itching to give Sonar a go!

Thanks to all that helped with this issue!

Bunch of champions me thinks!

Regs

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Oct 30, 2004 09:37 pm

I think OMF can be a bit picky. I think you need to make sure you have the tracks all highlited as well when you export to OMF. I know in Sonar 3 it wont export the midi tracks unless I have them highlited. I am guessing it is their way of excluding things you might not want to export.

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