Lots of tracks=noise pollution

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The fat one always watches us.
Member Since: Nov 08, 2002

db mentions the use of 20 or so tracks on a song. how can you put that much in and not have it sound like crap? I understand the need to fatten it up, but at some point you have to take the crayon from the child because the construction paper is full....

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Nov 08, 2002 08:35 am

That is where using better gear than Magix Studio and SoundDisaster sound cards come into play. Not intending to insult your gear, you are getting decent results right now, and that is what counts, though a little noise is apparant. As your vision and needs expand the need for more professional gear becomes more apparant. When I first started I got pretty good sound from a SB AWE 64 Gold and some cheap multitracking app, but it just doesn't do the job anymore.

Higher-end sound card can handle far more tracks much easier and better apps are more cleanly programmed and tuned and can handle much more data.

SB sound cards are made for gaming, not recording. But The larketing behind SB cards are totally fabricated, they can not hold up under the pressure of a serious studio like Creative Labs would have you believe. What is funny is that you can get a higher-end sound card made for recording (that will also play games and such) for LESS money than an SB Platinum model. However, I have heard some good things about magix studio app from a few people, though I have never tried it myself.

The fat one always watches us.
Since: Nov 08, 2002

Nov 08, 2002 08:45 am

My hands are tied on upgrading. That wife of mine just doesnt understand......on top of that MARS music is going out of business (at least here in va beach) so im sneaking down there at lunch to see what cheap goodies i can get. If i mention "sale" her ears perk up a bit. its a knee-jerk reaction, she cant help herself.....

Since: Apr 03, 2002

Nov 08, 2002 08:50 am

hehehehe. Yes, the good stuff costs a lot, but from the sounds of your stuff, with a little care you can do just fine with the stuff you have. I just mentioned the better stuff becasue, well, that is how you can do 20+ tracks with little to no noise... :-)

And ya, MARS is closing a lot of stores...the market has hit them as well...that's too bad, but we always have Musician's Friend.

Since: Apr 19, 2002

Nov 08, 2002 10:19 am

If you take care (a lot of care) at the tracking stage and get good tracks (clean and robust signals and good signal to noise ratios) you can have a lot more than 20 tracks in a song.
I have songs with 40+ tracks that sound pretty good. And as dB said, the soundcard, mic, comp, etc., play a key role.
Obviously (at least in my situation) the 40 tracks aren't playing always at the same time, and there are tracks that are 2 bars long, but having that separation is very helpfull at the mixing stage.

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Nov 08, 2002 10:36 pm

And 20 plus track's Tony, that's nothin. I have been know to assemble some stuff that has eaten up 80 plus track's. Now mind you they are not all, alway's playing at once. But the need for unlimited track's in some of the thing's I have done is a necessaty. And using midi has saved my a** more then once in the big track's picture.

And to be honest, in the old day's I took my sound blaster to the limit and back again as far as track count goes. So keep at it, it will pay off in the end.

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