kick drum....(mix)
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Posted on Jun 14, 2004 05:09 am
peter
Member Since: Jun 11, 2004
hi!
i record with a korg d1600 and have a multiband limiter at the master stereo outs.
my question is this; wanting to master the final mix somewhere else should i mix with a limiter on to get a feel for the result after the mastering? (of course i put the limiter off before final mixdown sending it to the real mastering)
but now when the balance is good and i turn the limiter off the kick and bass of course is louder. is that bad?
peter
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Jun 14, 2004 03:24 pm I would recommend mixing without the limiter. Let whoever's mastering the song worry about getting things to sound right under compression and limiting, since that's their job. Your job is to EQ the individual instruments and sculpt the song. After that it's up to the mastering engineer to hold up his side of the bargain. (Even if you're the one mastering it, too)
Jun 14, 2004 03:27 pm Oh sure, pawn off the job and the blame on the mastering engineer...see how you are :-P
The musicin say s "fix it in the mix" the mixer says "fix it in the master"...buncha punks.
TheTincanbugsloppy dice, drinks twiceMember
Since: Aug 05, 2003
Jun 14, 2004 03:41 pm create a new account at HRC under fake name - post song, saying "someone at another board told me you guys are a bunch of hacks - betcha can't even master this song" - wait for someone to "prove you wrong" - there ya go, problem avoided :)
whaddaya mean this isn't the private messaging feature? oh, shi----
:) just kiddin' gang hee hee hee
Jun 14, 2004 06:26 pm Well, I mean, the mixer's job is to make the mix sound good as is, if you're trying to do the mastering engineer's job at the same time you might just mess things up, you know?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 14, 2004 07:22 pm All fun aside peter, indeed you want it to be as close to perfection as you can get it. That means all the levels should be good. Nothing to far out of wack as far as levels go. The reason for this is, mastering cannot fix the fact that the kick is 15dB louder then it should be. A good mastering enginer can mess with it and make it OK, but that is not really the way it should happen. When I do a final mix, I try to get it as close to a mastered edit as possible, meaning a Pre-master so to speak.
It is really the enginer/mixers job to have all the levels pretty much perfect, and the mastering enginer can then tweak EQ and such to maximize the final 2 track mix. But he cant fix a 2 track mix where the kick and snare overpower the entire mix without it degrading something else in the mix.
Jun 14, 2004 08:09 pm Exactly-- Which is why it seems to me that putting a limiter on the mix while you're mixing might just throw your levels off during the mixing process, which could make it harder for the Mastering Engineer.
...Or maybe 2 clarification posts is one too many on my part... :)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 15, 2004 11:36 pm No, we can never have enough clarity around here.
