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Posted on Apr 16, 2004 12:00 pm
kivi
Member Since: Feb 25, 2004
Reason 2.5, Cakewalk Project 5, or Fruity Loops ( which I dont know where to buy even if I wanted to since AMS and MF dont carry anymore)
I need a good drum module / synth sound program. My good friend is RANTING nonstop about Reason, but I see you all use Fruity Loops, and I also see that Cakewalk program... I need to know how people feel. Talk to me, before I buy Reason 2.5 I want to make sure its right for me.
I will be getting a M Audio Ozone controller with whatever I end up with, and I am using Sonar 3 as my main recording software.
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Apr 16, 2004 12:06 pm Project5 integrates perfectly into Sonar. I use Sonar 3 and Project5 and love it. I used to use Fruity Loops, and it is still a good program, I can't bash it at all, however, I prefer the control which is accessed a bit more easily via MIDI-powered virtual instruments such as Project5.
Project5's "Velocity" drum sequencer is the bomb!
Just my two cents.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 16, 2004 12:31 pm Reason also does not support VST effects I don't believe, whereas Fruity and Project 5 will. I will reccomend Project 5 based on what I've heard about it from people whom I trust, and from personal experience I'll say go with Fruity
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Apr 16, 2004 01:45 pm Having tried both Reason and Fruity at a friends house only, I don't have too much experience with either of them, and I have no expererience with Project 5. Reason is a very cool program, but I find it lacking in a few places. The virtual drum machine that it comes with (Redrum) is very cool and I made a couple awesome sounding beats with it in like 20 minutes. It can play all kinds of files by way of its software samplers, and it comes with some effects in it too, but I wasn't really thrilled with the effects. Additionally, the sounds that come with Reason are very, very, very good (and you can find Refills - more very good sounds out there). What I don't like about Reason is that as far as I can tell, arranging songs, especially if you're used to using loops is tedious and difficult. In my opinion you need a midi controller to really get the full functionality from Reason.
Fruity on the other hand is easier to arrange, but the sounds that come with it are crap. You really, need to go out and find or create your own samples to use with Fruity. Plus, like Loki said, you can use VST which gives you a plethora of effects and synth instruments to mess with. Additionally, you can make cool music easily without the help of midi controller.
Just my two cents having only messed with the two programs a bit.
deepsMember
Since: Jan 26, 2004
Apr 16, 2004 02:46 pm Agree with Coolo - Fruity is what I use to sequence my beats and the sample packs that come with Fruity do indeed suck. The instruments, bass's are crap, but the different kicks, snares, etc ranging from hiphop to d&b are good though. For synth, fruity doesnt come with good samples to use (pads etc...) so like Coolo said, buy some sample pack CD's or if you got a korg like myself (hehe), you can load the sound banks and use fruity as your beat sequencer...
Reason is pretty tough program to use...you can achieve awesome results though once you get the hang of it as I know some producers in the UK that swear by Reason and they went on to become award winning producers so thats saying something. On the other hand, I know other producers who have won awards and their beats are all done a la Fruity! So I would suggest downloading the demo of fruity and reason, play with it and buy the one you end up liking the most :)
my 3 cents
kiviMember
Since: Feb 25, 2004
Apr 16, 2004 04:06 pm Thanks for all the info folks. Very much appreciated.
kiviMember
Since: Feb 25, 2004
Apr 16, 2004 05:04 pm Ok. Can you get as good quality drm sounds from something like the Cakewalk Project 5 as you could from say... a Boss DR-770 Dr Rhythm Drum Machine??
I like the flexibility of synth sounds and such from the Project 5, but I guess all in all my main concern is having a good drum setup.
I play rock/acoustic rock/blues type music, so those electronica drum types dont do a thing for me.
ALSO !!!!!!!!!
Anyone ever tried a guitar synth? From what I have heard from demos they sound pretty good, and easy to use for us guitar heads who want lots of familiar control. But, anyone have firsthand experience with one?
Apr 16, 2004 08:07 pm Quote:
Can you get as good quality drm sounds from something like the Cakewalk Project 5 as you could from say... a Boss DR-770 Dr Rhythm Drum Machine??
Hell no, not even close. Also, Project 5 you can have an unlimited number of different kits and drums....
kiviMember
Since: Feb 25, 2004
Apr 16, 2004 09:15 pm Confused me 8)
You said hell no, then talked about the good things about Project 5. So is that a hell no that Project 5 can do drums as good as a boss, or hell no the other way?
*kivi puts down the beer in hopes to un-confuse himself*
Apr 16, 2004 09:28 pm Oh, hell no, the Boss can't can't touch what Project 5 can do. Boss has a good set or two of drums, but Project 5 has about 20 good kits packages with it, plus you can configure as many of your own as you want, plus it comes with a full set of softsynths. In addition in integrates into application via VSTi and MIDI which makes them fully editable via your multitracking app...it's uncomparible.
kiviMember
Since: Feb 25, 2004
Apr 16, 2004 10:04 pm Ok gotcha. Thanks much 8)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 21, 2004 09:09 pm kivi, if Im not to late. Project 5 is at the top of the heap right now as far as an overall tool goes. You can virtually do everything right in P5 without leaving it. And it will run alongside Sonar via ReWire so they work together like one unit.
Go to my profile/music and check out a track called {b]gotta[/b]. I did basically everything inside P5 without nay external synths or drum machines. The only live audio recorded was the guitar track. That will give you a good example of what P5 can do.
