Pro Tools LE 6.1/MIDI
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Posted on Apr 10, 2004 07:28 am
riffgod
www.charlienaebeck.com
Member Since: Apr 10, 2004
Hey everyone,
New to the forums, and recently landed the newest version of Pro Tools LE 6.1. I was wondering if anyone might be able to answer if you can use a standard MIDI-USB cable with this version of Pro Tools without running through the external Pro Tools module?
Unfortunately I could only afford to hook up with the MBox for my console at this time and it does not have a standard MIDI I/O on it. It does however have S/PDIF in's and outs as well as quarter inch stereo I/O's. Would I be able to use the MIDI-USB cable into my Pro Tools software, or would I have to use an outside program and then import my audio from the MIDI into pro tools? I am looking for the easiest most cost effective way to get midi from my keyboard. Ultimately I would like to be able to use the quantize effects and such from my Pro Tools software. Thanks Much
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Apr 10, 2004 08:37 am Hi riffgod, let me offer you a hearty welcome to HRC.
I apologize if you have a hard time finding ProTools users here, there are only a few, I hope they can find your question and help you. That said, not being a ProTools user myself, I would be very surprised if ProTools did not allow you to use the standard USB/MIDI cable as you want to.
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 10, 2004 09:41 am Hey dB, Thanks much for the welcome. :)
wow, not a lot of folks in home recording use Pro Tools, or just not a fav. on the boards in general? :)
From your knowledge I should be able to import the data from the USB-MIDI cable in any application if you had to guess right? I have other software like Cakewalk that I could use also, but if I don't have to install it and take up the HD space and can use the same program I'm all in favor. lol
well, I guess I could always give it the good old "buy it and try it" and if it doesn't work take it back to the store too. :)
Thanks much
Apr 10, 2004 12:56 pm Most of the people we have encountered that use ProTools got annoyed with it rather quickly and ended up going to Sonar, CUbase or something like that. I can't speak for the home recording community at large, but we have seen that here at HRC a few times. Many people seem to buy it because it's industry standard, so they figure it must be the best...then they find out that any current software can do the same thing, and for less money, plus then not being tied in to the ProTools hardware...
But, if I would have to take a guess, I would think PT will let you do that...if not...well, that'd be sucky.
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 11, 2004 05:42 am yeah, I was considering alternatives also when I went with the hardware, but have Interned at a couple of pro-level studios that use Pro Tools so I was kinda hooked even though the cost is a lot more. lol
I was thinking of becoming Pro Tools certified through the digidesign course to be able to do any type of studio work or installs..etc.. but I am probably what you might call "a little more into setting up a studio" than someone that just wants to record on their computer at home and intend on taking my recording to a pro level sooner or later. :) I already own my own label and am working on building the studio slow but sure. :)
I have also used Cubase, Fruity Loops, Acid 2.0 3.0 4.0, Sound Forge, and a couple others. I think I should be able to record with the MIDI-USB cable as long as I have the ASIO drivers installed for Pro-Tools caus I know you can use other programs with the Pro Tools hardware if you want caus we used to use SADIE at one of the studios I was working for. Hmm.. eh, just gotta come by the cash for the cable now. lol
Have a good Easter all. peace
Apr 11, 2004 07:06 am A lot of pro studios are now starting to use Nuendo systems. Most any article I read with angineers have ProTools essentially because they have to for compatiblity, but most of them wish they could dump it because of the expense.
I am not trying to talk you out of ProTools or into anything else, just telling you that there are not a lot of ProTools users here. There are, however quite a few former ProTools users :-)
Is your label brand new? Do you have any artists signed to it? I am assuming you are in the very formative stages of all this...but I may be wrong. Judging by your web site it's all pretty new.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Apr 11, 2004 08:02 am what kinda stuff does your label do riff?
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 11, 2004 06:38 pm I'm just gonna ask.
Can I be on the label?
Apr 11, 2004 09:56 pm Ok. This guy sounds cockier than me! I was gonna say a whole bunch of stuff.. but im biting my lip on this one.
except that your using outdated "NEW" software..6.4 came out a few weeks ago if im not mistaken.
el musicoFreeleance Producer/Engineer/GtrMember
Since: Aug 11, 2002
Apr 12, 2004 10:45 am Actually, PT is at version 6.1.1 for XP users and 6.2.3 for Mac so his is only slightly outdated and he's intitled to the updates available if he actually owns the software mentioned.
So, riffgod, I've always used the provided midi ports on the digi001 or 002 but my bandmates have a full PT TDM setup they do use a usb midi interface for the korg triton.
Kenndal, why chime in if you are only going to be negative... especially with misinformation? Riffgod seemed only to tell us what was on his plate, which many others here (including myself) have done many times. I'm glad to hear about other people's 'goings-on' and wish everyone success. Plus it is always nice to have new contacts :)
Apr 12, 2004 11:06 am Thanks El Musico, I almost emailed you to alert you to this thread as you are one of the very few PT users I know of here...thanks for stopping by.
Kenndal, that was completely unnecessary. If you have nothing to add, shut up.
Apr 12, 2004 02:28 pm news.harmony-central.com/...o-Tools-64.html
HAHA...Ok, so then lets all start our own record label!
Ill be with the polar bear and everyone else can be with the penguines....HEY we could have a seal team too. and those little white whales.
Im just a little tweaked because this kid doesnt know what hes talking about. He doesnt own a record label. Hes one of those kids who could probably play eruption before everyone else in middle school and because (what he thought) was the riff god. sorry. ill leave him alone. hes GOD.
Apr 12, 2004 03:43 pm Kenndal, thats it, I have had it with your attitude, and so have a lot of other people I have been hearing from. he may or may not have a label, the label may or may not be doing much work, regardless he obviously has some aspirations and HRC is not gonna sit around and let you take shots at him or everyone else you take shots at.
The only input your have ever had here has been sarcastic remarks and backhanded "compliments" from you, who seem as tho you think YOU are God because your dad did well.
You are banned, come back when you grow up.
el musicoFreeleance Producer/Engineer/GtrMember
Since: Aug 11, 2002
Apr 12, 2004 03:48 pm Hey, kenndal... why are you attacking people? just because you are young and think in terms of "whose better than who" doesn't mean he does. he didn't compare himself to anyone here so why take offense? Your jealousy is obvious and disgusting.
you obviously followed his links and check out his label (hence the penguin remark) but you failed to realize that are 2 acts with his label. Granted it's not a major, but all it takes is 1 act and some distribution of some sort and VIOLA! you have a label. How is that grounds for ridicule? Grow up.
So 6.4 was announced... it hasn't been released yet.
Apr 12, 2004 03:55 pm OK, the offensive is over, everybody relax and get back to the business of helping out riffgod. I am sure he got a lousy taste of HRC already.
riffgod, know that this sort of behavior is NOT tollerated at HRC, and is really quite rare. That said, I hope you stick around and don't let the childish behavior of some spoil your stay.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Apr 12, 2004 04:00 pm id like to extend a fresh welcome to riffgod, and apologise for some of the doofuses who haunt hrc (or not, anymore, in kendalls case)
enjoy your stay, and like db says, dont be put off...
DanMember
Since: Nov 21, 2002
Apr 12, 2004 10:36 pm HRC is a happy place... please dont let kenndal's assinine comments influence your thoughts on HRC...
I dont know what id do without this place, i owe everything i know about recording (which is still pretty small, but ever expanding) to HRC.
and you get to check out some sick music by the other members.
enjoy your stay
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 14, 2004 10:32 am Thanks for the positive replies everyone. Yes, I own a "small" record label. Its nothing by far like any of the big 5, but it supports my ongoing passion for the music which is what its all about and allows me to help support music I believe in.
As for PT 6.4 I hadn't heard about that yet. Thanks much for the update. I only have the 6.1 LE caus I am running Windows XP. I always have room for upgrades though when I eventually intend on switching over to a mac based system for recording purposes. :)
Anyways, once again thanks to all for the warm welcome and I look forward to networking with a lot of you down the road. :)
Apr 14, 2004 10:37 am If your label ever needs a good mastering house or web development and hosting to rely on, gimme a shout. www.dbmasters.net/
Mac?! HERETIC! :-D
el musicoFreeleance Producer/Engineer/GtrMember
Since: Aug 11, 2002
Apr 14, 2004 11:17 am Well if you plan on staying with pro tools you should consider staying with PC. I read something anout digidesign once (and can find it) that stated PC is becoming Avid/Digidesign's platform of choice due to the massive problems they are having with the Mac OS. If you think Mac is needed for 'pro' results consider this: Pro Tools HD is the cream of the crop and is very stable with XP.
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 14, 2004 01:58 pm dB: what type of rates do you run on mastering? I might be able to forward you a couple of projects outside of the label that I am producing at the moment. :)
el musico: really? I would be definately interested in checking out the article if you have a copy of it. :) yeah, if I ever come across the cash I was debating on a mac G5 as one of my "dream systems" just for the pure fact that most PT systems I had come across and worked with were on Mac consoles. The one thing I was liking about the Macs were the fact that most G5's you can get with the dual processors and they are clocked at the fastest on the market currently over Intel and AMD. Eh, I have always used Windows for my home based systems though in the same deal. lol Just not fond of the fact that Windows is more vulnerable for security flaws than Mac also. I wish they would make a recording setup for Linux also... oh well... p.s. yes I have gear lust at the moment thinking about it all. haha drop me a line if you find the article though please. thanks :)
Apr 14, 2004 02:03 pm Check out my web site www.dbmasters.net/ and contact me through there, I prefer to keep my business matters of the public web site...seems sorta self-serving :-)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 14, 2004 08:25 pm riffgod, there are a lot of us here that would love to see a Linux system become available for recording.
But I will trully second what el musico said about sticking with the PC. I have seen many problems over the years resulting in jackhammers being takin to a Mac from the sheer frustration point they would reach. It seems as most platforms on the Mac that are worth their salt get left behind and you end up having to invest in entire new systems. This has not happened as freuantly with the PC.
Example, I am still running the very first versioin of the Delta that M-Audio put out for PC, and they have kept the drivers absolutely up to date without a hitch. I havent seen that on a Mac yet.
Apr 14, 2004 08:53 pm OSX left everyone behind, it's not a standard practice with Mac...or, no more standard than with Windows. Let's not turn this in to a Mac/Windows debate, it's a no-win debate. They both have their pros and cons and both can get the job done just as well as the other. It's just a matter of preference and comfort.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 14, 2004 09:53 pm Aside from that I had another typo flame didnt catch.
And definately, whichever platform you go to, just make sure you do the research to insure a bit of longivity out of the gear you buy.
That said, we all know if you buy it today, it will be outdated next week.
Oh and riffgod, the 6.4 update isnt actually released yet. They dont even have much to say about it except for a few bug fixes and such on their site.
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 15, 2004 05:48 am dB: will do. :)
Noize2u: Thanks for the info. I was thinking about just upgrading and maxing out ram in the laptop I am using right now anyways. The only downside to Macs is that I am not as fond of the layout of their OS>... *shrugs*
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 15, 2004 09:48 pm Me either, I am much more comfy with windows. That is probly making me biased to the PC. But I have done several set-ups with Mac and it was hours long to get drivers to install and just not a fun thing.
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 16, 2004 06:28 am yeah, whats funny is way back in the day when mac was about the equivelant of a 486 in PC terms I would have used a Mac any day over a PC, but then a little company called IBM got together with another company called Intel and things totally changed. lol Now I used AMD pretty much though as I have had much better luck with them. :)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 19, 2004 10:11 pm Yep, I started out using an Atari 1030e and a couple other Atari's. My first sequancing program that ran on the Atari's was the very first release by a little company called Twelve Tone Sytsems who later became CakeWalk now one of the giants of the industry. That was along time ago, and things have really changed since then.
I as well am stuck on AMD as they just seem to run Sonar better. Although I have no complaints as my old PIII 667 coppermine has served me more then well, and still does.
riffgodwww.charlienaebeck.comMember
Since: Apr 10, 2004
Apr 28, 2004 07:22 am my oh my, time flies when you're having fun since those days. lol Thats cool to know that Cakewalk evolved out of Twelve Tone though. :)
Apr 28, 2004 10:05 am atari, or Otari?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 11, 2004 10:27 pm Atari, same guys who made all the cool video games back in the day. Otari is a very big dollar stand alone digital recording system that can completely blow ProTools and all the other dedicated stuff out of the water. But it aint cheap at all, and not easy to learn either.
But yes indeed the old Atari 1030ST was my first sequaning computer, hooked up via a synch box to a 2" analog tape machine and drum machines and whatnot.
