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Posted on Feb 21, 2004 04:07 pm
Edvo
Member Since: Feb 18, 2004
Maybe somebody can suggest something about miking snare:
1. separation snare from hi-hat?
2. Using of bottom mic on snare?
I feel myself using a lot of expander on snare with loosing some nice dynamic accents, I would prefer not to use it, but leakage of hihat is too obvious. Using of gate on snare is total nonsence in my opinion. And bottom mic gives more edge, but placing it in phase with top mic seems to be very hard (to find a good position). They bastards always seem to be a little out of phase :). If not to use the bottom mic, the top demands too much of eq to make it more or less good sounding, but with loosing natural color. As I am drummer myself I feel these details in my and many other recordings very clear.
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MinkusMazBane of All ExistenceMember
Since: Mar 27, 2003
Feb 22, 2004 12:06 am hey i like your music. what language is it in?
i find that one mic on the shell area will do the trick, depending on what sound you're looking for. you don't necessarily need to gate or expand at all if you've got cool overhead sounds.
EdvoMember
Since: Feb 18, 2004
Feb 22, 2004 02:56 am Language is lithuanian (post ussr republic), one of the first recordings of me, I had no idea, what is mixing and mastering at that time :)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Feb 22, 2004 01:55 pm What type of mics are you using above and below the snare? This can make a bit of a differance as well.
And by the way, welcome to HRC the international playground for Home Recording.
juesContributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002
Feb 22, 2004 07:18 pm Try side-mic'ing the snare (eg: point the mic at the shell of the snare drum), you can do this so it's facing away from the hi-hat, or, if that still doesn't work, consider using a Hyper-Cardiod dynamic mic and position it about 45 degrees from the hi-hat - this will kill nearly all bleed from it.
jues.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Feb 22, 2004 10:12 pm I second Jues suggestion to try a hyperC. The last recording I did I used a Rhode NT3 which I never liked much for anything else. Real nice results! A lot of the tunes had a fair amount of brushing used. Nice pick up on the subtle sounds. Also good seperation. The drummer complained a little about the bulk of the mic but worked through it.
EdvoMember
Since: Feb 18, 2004
Feb 23, 2004 06:17 am To Noize2u: Thanks for wellcome :), I use sm57's for above and below miking. As it was suggested in recording tip of jues, they have to be at the same distance from beat source. It was shown in the picture, that the source is somewhere inside the drum. I am not sure, but the source can be on the top batter. Here I have to try a lot of positions.
To jues: the pointing mic at the shell is something new for me, I will try this.
To Walt: I never thought about using condenser on snare. I will try with some cardioid Audiotechnica, which I use for overheads.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Feb 23, 2004 04:34 pm In most cases the 57s would be a perfect choice, but I am guessing you have some cirqumstance that is giving them a bad time. I use the style jues gave when in a situation that is mic limited and it works just fine.
Also, checked out your site and the tunes. Very nice, I liked the look of the site, it fits the music for sure.
