Drum Bleeding
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Posted on Dec 08, 2003 11:20 am
FunkDadyP
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Is the bleeding of one drum sound to the wrong mic impossible to fix? For instance, if i want reverb on my snare and the hat mic also picks up the snare sound, can i do anything about it pre- or post-recording? Because i don't want my hat to have reverb, but I'm picking up the snare on that mic too. I'm debating whether i should just record only the bass drum and use two overheads. Any thoughts?
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FunkDadyPNo Commercial Appeal.Member
Since: Jan 09, 2003
Dec 08, 2003 11:22 am I should mention that i have a 7 piece drum mic kit. i use the two cymbal mics for overheads (of course), two mics on snare, one on bass, one on toms, one on hat. Maybe I'm using too many mics.
Dec 08, 2003 11:24 am You can use a gate on the snare drum track and then apply the reverb only to the snare drum. That should do the trick, for the most part. If the gate is set correctly, you won't be able to hear anything on the snare track except for when the actual snare hits come through. Good luck.
MinkusMazBane of All ExistenceMember
Since: Mar 27, 2003
Dec 08, 2003 01:25 pm i'd switch that hat mic to a tom so that you can get more toms individually. but if you really want a mic on your hi-hat, have it facing away from the snare as much as possible. you might also consider switching one of your snare mics to the other tom and only use one mic on the shell of the snare. that works really well for me. it's good to get the toms individually so that you can gate the tracks as porp describes, and get full on huge tom sounds. plus, being able to pan the toms helps bring those drums out in the mix.
Dec 08, 2003 07:03 pm Yeah, you don't generally need a hi-hat mic in my experience.
Dec 08, 2003 07:17 pm PMS has some good advice. Use a gate on the snare, as MM says use the extra mics to each tom individually and then use the overheads for the high hats. Typically, riding the hi hat and crashing the cymbals does not occur simultaneously (except for that one or so beat during a crash if one chooses to play both the crash along with the hat), and you can get great sounds using only the overheads for all the cymbals, hats included. Move that stereo position around till you get the right mix. Apply the effects to that track and if you need, only to the sections of the track you choose. Gates are always a good idea on drums because so many mics can really muddy the mix such if a tom mic is picking up the snare, vice versa, and one can pick up the kick from the snare etc. The close proximity of all the mics makes it very challenging, so minimize the work during mixdown by using a good gate on all the drums.
Using a mic on each tom allows that cool panning effect (as MM Said) during rolls (if such are included).
Have fun and don't pull too much of the hair out... (Count 'em Loki, one, two three periods)
MinkusMazBane of All ExistenceMember
Since: Mar 27, 2003
Dec 08, 2003 08:33 pm nice ellipsis, scrump. three is the magic number.