bought an SM57
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Posted on Dec 02, 2003 06:53 am
flame
...bringing sexy back
Member Since: Jul 01, 2002
not played with it yet, but i can wait to see how it compares to my cheap old c606
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TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Dec 02, 2003 07:15 am Bulletproof and versatile! You're gonna love it! You'll need to fashion a pop filter if you want to sing through it though...I learned that the first night I had it.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 07:28 am yeah? hadnt heard that before...singing throught it'll be the first thing im gonna do with it...
juesContributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 07:35 am you can always use the pencil tick until you get a pop shield.
jues
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 07:37 am pencil tick?
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 07:40 am i see what ya mean about neading a pop shield though - its much more prone to pops and tuts than my other mics...
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 08:04 am ahhh, the pencil tRick...explained to me by Jues, is as follows :
stick a pencil over the end of the mic with bluetac. stops blasts of air aparently.
TheTincanbugsloppy dice, drinks twiceMember
Since: Aug 05, 2003
Dec 02, 2003 08:11 am I tried the pencil trick on my sm57. It worked, sort of. I could tell a difference in sound quality - sounded less "direct" than without the pencil. I still got a couple of pops every now and then, too. Make your own popfilter instead, it's easy... you just can't take the ugly thing up on stage with you when finished. ...though, now that I think about it, if you used black pantyhose material and painted the wooden hoop black, that would make it look a lot better....
www.homerecordingconnecti...story&id=35
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 08:28 am i wouldnt take it on stage with a pencil stuck on either...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 12:53 pm That would generate some interesting conversations though, dont ya think. :-)
Its surprising what happens when you hang weird stuff on your stage gear.
AK RedlineSeconds From The EndMember
Since: Jun 16, 2003
Dec 02, 2003 01:55 pm a speaker grille works awesome
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 02:42 pm yeah pop filters are easy to make, and if you put some time into em you can even make em look good. As far as weird things on stage go... that sounds like it should be a whole new thread.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Dec 02, 2003 07:42 pm I think you'll like it alot flame. It's a very versatle mic imo. I've had mine for about 23 years and it still works as well as the day I bought it. I had a condenser mic as well but rarely used it cause I sounded horrible on it, and I paid twice what I paid for the SM57.
It's still the only mic I own and use.
Dec 02, 2003 08:21 pm SM58's better for vocals, 57 is more for micing amps/drums etc..
As far as helping out a 57 in a live situation if you're using it for vocals, get a wind screen. Costs pennies, covers up most of the 'issues', the sound man should take care of the rest.
W.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 02, 2003 08:31 pm Ya Loki, thats why I didnt even go there. Maybe in the back room or something.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 03, 2003 01:23 am i actually bought a proper popshield but it fell apart...it was only a few quid though...
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Dec 04, 2003 01:23 pm the back room, where god only knows what really goes on . lol
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 04, 2003 01:33 pm what, the batcave?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 04, 2003 04:02 pm No the ModCave silly! And flame Ive been meaning to ask you, and now that Tuna saw the big picture of it in your profile. What on gods green earth is that thing you use for an avatar. And what is he, (if indeed it is human and male) wearing on his head. It looks like some fishbowl thing with a nibben stuck in it.
Dec 04, 2003 05:06 pm Noize, that's Mr. Valvehead. Look at his profile to see a bigger pic of it.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 04, 2003 06:33 pm Oh ya, Mr. Valvehead. Where exactly is he from? A cartoon or something, Tuna is trying to figure out what its from.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 05, 2003 06:22 pm he came out of a 'kinder surprise' egg...its a chocolate egg that you can buy here, and theres some cool toy inside it - in this case mr valvehead!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 06, 2003 12:03 am So if he hatched for a chocolate egg, how do yo know his name is Mr. Valvehead? Did you just come up with that? Or does he really exist somewhere with the name Mr. Valvehead?
Im not trying to be obnoxious or anything, I just have this deep seated desire to know the origin of the name. Call me psychotic but I really need to know..............????????????
TheTincanbugsloppy dice, drinks twiceMember
Since: Aug 05, 2003
Dec 06, 2003 06:45 am I'm with Noize2u on this one... I wondered what your avatar was too, flame. Looks kind of like a pokemon-style Santa Claus wearing a pope hat. :)
Dec 06, 2003 08:20 am Yep, I've been wondering the same thing...
tonyd1970The fat one always watches us.Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002
Dec 06, 2003 08:21 am i made my pop shield on my 57 with shipping foam. cut a square, hollow out, slide on.....its the only mic i use, hope youre enjoying it
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 06, 2003 02:20 pm OK flame, so now theres a bunch of us. How did it get its name? I understand the chocolate egg thing as there is bizare stuff over hear like that as well. I agree with the santa wearing a pope hat as well. But it resembles a gremlin of sorts and what about the smurf blue hand? And what is with the nibben thing on the pope hat? Is that the valve you refer to in Mr. Valvehead?
DanMember
Since: Nov 21, 2002
Dec 06, 2003 07:36 pm valvehead... i presume thats a Tube (or vavle) on his head?
I was always kinda afraid to ask lol
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 09, 2003 07:11 am ooops, didnt even see these - didnt know anyone cared that much...
erm, i made his name up cos i thought it suited him, its not really a valve on his head but it does light up and the little hat thing matches the rest of his outfit. the blue hands are his gloves, which match his socks.
clearer?
TheTincanbugsloppy dice, drinks twiceMember
Since: Aug 05, 2003
Dec 09, 2003 07:58 am flame: "clearer?"
The mystery is solved at last. We can all rest easier knowing the origins of flame's avatar. :)
tony: "i made my pop shield on my 57 with shipping foam. cut a square, hollow out, slide on....."
man, that's an idea... never thought of that. and I'm sitting here with a block of the perfect foam for that, too. I do believe I'll try that out myself, that homemade popfilter I've got now tends to wobble at the wrong times.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 10, 2003 10:41 pm IT LIGHTS UP?
Now that is too kool. I gotta come over there and get some kindergarden eggs, or whatever you called em.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 12, 2003 08:39 am ill send ya some with your album...
CrashIgnorance Is StrengthMember
Since: Nov 10, 2002
Dec 12, 2003 11:29 am hmmm interesting, I'm thinking about about a coathanger cut and bent with a piece of pantyhose stretched around it and maybe a way to hook the coathanger to the mic. thx for the ideas guys.
TheTincanbugsloppy dice, drinks twiceMember
Since: Aug 05, 2003
Dec 12, 2003 11:40 am Hey crash, I use that exact same popfilter method for my mic... it works well, I'm always having to futz with the coathanger to get it back into position. You may want to try tony's method first, since if cut right, the filter won't slip at all. Just a suggestion. If you do go with the pantyhose idea, check this out first:
www.homerecordingconnecti...story&id=35
Hope this helps!
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Dec 12, 2003 01:52 pm Seriously, its worth ponying up the $15 to buy a cheapie.
I spent $14 to buy this exact model at my local music shop: www.loudkaraoke.com/equip_details.asp?ID=AWS404 Its the least amount of materials that a company could put into such a product and still call it a pop filter. It swivels at the clamp and at the screen part and you can clip it right on to your mic clip.
Just imagine not singing into hosiery!
But if you do go the panty hose route, be sure not to use the crotch pad part.
CrashIgnorance Is StrengthMember
Since: Nov 10, 2002
Dec 12, 2003 04:12 pm Tadpui,
I think I'll going to go the hosiery route for now, its cheap and theres something about a wet spot on panty hose that excites me.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Dec 15, 2003 10:19 pm Yup, nuttin like Ode-da-Fish to bring out the soul in a love song performed by a male vocalist. Well.....come to think of it 10% of female vocalists too!.....But then thats augmented by the 10% of male vocalists that don't care for fish..... Let's see then there's the take it or leave it crowd. Oh good grief... Much too confusing...much too confusing!
PS: about your choice for the M57. I personaly agree with you the 58 uses the same capsule, electronics etc. Per Shure the only difference is the extended screen on the 57 effectively pushing the capsule back a little and limiting proximity effect. Especially for recording, I would rather have that. I can effectively add proximity effect in software in a number of ways. I can't take it out. I can see for a performance mic a vocalist would probably like the 58 a little better as there would be more control over the effect.