Record Dry or Wet?

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Seconds From The End
Member Since: Jun 16, 2003

when you guys record besides compresors and stuff... im talkin like reverb and multi effects prosecors etc. do you initial reverb or use a plugin?

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Nov 26, 2003 04:40 pm

I use effects on my guitar while I'm recording, but not on my vocals or bass.

Dan

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
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Since: Oct 09, 2002


Nov 26, 2003 07:02 pm

I don't. I like plug-ins because you never know whether you're going to like what the wet signal sounds like until you hear it with all the other instruments-- and then it's too late to change it if it's not real-time.

Seconds From The End
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Since: Jun 16, 2003


Nov 26, 2003 07:11 pm

yeah id have to agree

Czar of Midi
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Nov 26, 2003 11:21 pm

I usually record everything dry. Unless its my birthday, then maybe wet. :-)

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Nov 27, 2003 12:11 am

I'm with Noise. I get too many shocks when I'm wet.

Totaly depends on what I am doing. If I am in or recording a band that has an established "sound", then I will record wet rather than try to recreate the "sound" with my arsonal of effects. I do however prefer dry for the added ability to manipulate the sound in the mix and master.

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
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Nov 27, 2003 08:43 am

Very true, very true...

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Nov 27, 2003 11:10 am

i never record with any effects or anything...its all software in my setup.

if i had the space, id rather do it all outboard but im so limited for places to put stuff it makes sense to keep it all in the pc.

Czar of Midi
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Nov 27, 2003 08:04 pm

I truly am almost to the point of selling off some of my outboard gear. I could very well do without 8 or 10 pieces of the rack gear that I rarely use anymore. But on the other hand, the minute I sell it I will probly want to use it. So its a double edged sword there. But over the tears I have learned alot about using the DSP FX and learned how to get them to sound like my analog stuff. But it is true that it is much easier to manipulate stuff after the fact. Its not so easy to fix a bad effect once its tracked.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Nov 28, 2003 12:30 am

Noise,

It's good to hear you say that you are finding the softeffects so proficient. I was wondering if I was loosing my ear. I too am finding that the soft effects and processing is providing better results for me. I still keep a few staples in the rack just in case. Compression for the band that just can't control their amplitude, a DI box for the band with cheep amps, a headphone distributor for the band who needs to be entertained and away from the board, and finally an effects processor for the band who just has to hear that effect while they play.

For the most part however, my rule is "bring your sound with you". I'll capture it and get it out of a stereo.

I often feel more like a music educator than a recording tech. This last band came in and listened to a rough mix and I got four different opinions on the sound from the four performers. So we had a chat about sharing a vision, and how a band will go nowhere untill the sound is agreed upon. I gave them a mix and told them to hash it out and come back when they had a shared vision. They finally got it when I told them to have the war in their living room and not on stage!

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
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Nov 28, 2003 08:02 am

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and finally an effects processor for the band who just has to hear that effect while they play.


Well, these days you can even get rid of that with input monitoring which allows you to hear a plug-in's effect while you're recording! I know at least Sonar 3 has that option. I'm not sure if the other multitrackers do, but I'd think they would.

Seconds From The End
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Since: Jun 16, 2003


Nov 28, 2003 09:58 am

cubase sx has that but this one time i put a denoiser on the master and i had hardkore latency it freaked me out and i was scared haha then i just disabled it and we were good to go whoops..

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Nov 28, 2003 10:30 am

You got it Muffins! That's exactly what it does. They hear it, I don't!

Czar of Midi
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Nov 28, 2003 05:24 pm

That was initiated back in Sonar 2. It is a great thing to have yes. I dont used it as often as I should, but my desk allows not sending the aux.'s out my subs so I can let them hear it in their phones but not let it go to the tracks. I love that as well.

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