May 10, 2011 04:47 pm Only way is to read through the forums and practice. There is not magic bullet.
NEED HELP MIXING :(
Posted on May 10, 2011 04:44 pm
akaTheProdigy
Member Since: May 10, 2011
Hey I'm a 16 year old rapper and I record using Cool Edit Pro(old yeah I know) but that's the only program I know how to record/mix with and I'm barely any good with that. Can somebody recommend a program/teach me how to mix or mix my tracks for me? I'd greatly appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance.
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May 10, 2011 04:47 pm Only way is to read through the forums and practice. There is not magic bullet.
May 10, 2011 04:48 pm Maybe post up something to let us see where you are at right now
May 10, 2011 04:51 pm here's one I mixed the first verse and the hook that's me.
May 10, 2011 05:54 pm Cool man sounds like you've got a good start. I've gone through some online courses with Berklee and I'd recommend those. Real expensive, check it out tho.
If you're looking for a cheaper alternative I'd probably recommend a couple training DVD's. You may have a hard time finding hip hop mixing DVD's that talk about Cool Edit. I've used the MultiPlatinum DVD's and learned some through those, but not anything that I could have started from scratch from.
Berklee will get it done for sure though, see if you can get the money together. Should be worth it.
May 10, 2011 05:56 pm oh, and it's berkleemusic.com
May 10, 2011 05:56 pm I graduate next year and I plan on going to Full Sail University. Have you heard of it? And since Cool Edit is pretty out of date and simple, could you suggest a mixing program for me?
May 10, 2011 06:14 pm I have several (5) friends who have gone to full sail, and of the 5, only 1 has a productive career (BTW, he's 26 and currently lives in his parents basement...that's the successful one). Of the 5; three are ignorant, self-absorbed, entitled jerks. I've been to studios who refuse to hire Full Sail graduates because they are mostly WAY arrogant. You'll be in debt for a long time after going to Full Sail, and the skills you gain are not necessarily going to be worth the expense. In fact, a guy I know who went to SAE in Atlanta calls me for advice and troubleshooting more often than I call him for advice.
I highly, highly, highly recommend against going to Full Sail. The education is fine, but you'll be surrounded by ignorant kids with more dreams than sense; and that is not what you need. You can learn everything you need to know from reading online and practice, and if you don't have the patience for that, go through berkleeonline and take ONLY what you need to learn. Their certification paths are nothing more than an attempt to take advantage of you. Take what you need to take and practice every day, a certificate from Berklee or Full Sail or SAE isn't going to mean anything to anyone. These boutique college programs are cranking out WAY more graduates than there are positions in the industry to fill. You need to learn how to make music make money in your area, exclusively. Tech N9ne here in Kansas City started in the city, built a record label worth 11 million mostly from local successes.
Stay in a major metropolitan area, treat your local market like it's the only place in the world, produce everyone you can who has talent, and work work work.
If you just can't stand the idea of not going to a physical location to study, look for a community college program that offers some music programs with hands on training. You can learn everything you need for under $10k. Don't let Full Sail, SAE, CRAS or any of those name brand colleges fool you. The knowledge is easy enough to come by on your own, especially in hip hop where multitrack recording isn't as crucial.
I'll let Coolo fill you in on which programs to use for electronic hip hop. I'd be guessing. I do rock, jazz, and instrument based hip hop.
May 10, 2011 06:20 pm hey thanks man can you email me [email protected] about those schools I'd greatly appreciate and I have some business inquiries
May 10, 2011 07:35 pm Hey, if you need someone to mix your tracks for you, I'll do it.
I'll do the first one for free. If you like it we can go from there.
email me [email protected]
May 10, 2011 08:20 pm I second the notion of doing Berklee if you can scrounge up the cash for it. Full Sail is a bit of a joke. The teachers are often former students who couldn't make it in the real world, and the few students who -are- successful out of Full Sail, tend to know what they need to know before going into it.
A close friend of mine for instance, was a damn good programmer already before he went to Full Sail. The college pretty much rounded out what he needed for game design, and he went on to work at n-space in Orlando for several years. And he has a fairly comfortable life, but I'm not sure if he's found another job yet, or if he's still between jobs. But he already knew a lot and was way ahead in knowledge before he went there.
However, the people who go into Full Sail not knowing much, tend to come out not knowing much more, unfortunately. Full Sail is more about making money off its student "recruits" than it is about providing a solid well rounded education. I've done some reading/research on them in the past, and I cannot recommend that place to anyone.
As for the piece of paper, well, it can help, but it's more about your knowledge and experience. You need to be able to show people you know what you know. I would also recommend having a well rounded education first and foremost so you have something to fall back on for the "day job" in case the studio idea tanks.
May 11, 2011 04:10 pm You mix sound pretty good. And it's a cool song too.
As for programs, Cool Edit will work fine, but it limits the plugins you can use... if I remember right it doesn't allow VST plugins... only DX. I use Adobe Audition which used to be Cool Edit, so it is pretty similar, and after the upgrade you can use VST and DX effects plug ins. But it is my understanding that most programs are pretty similar... Cubase, Sonar, Pro Tools, Audtion, etc... some might have a bit different or better functionality or work flow, but basically they are similar. Reaper is another option that is cheap.
As for teaching to mix... if you put mixes up here and ask for feedback, I'm happy to do that. But to learn to mix takes experience, unfortunately there is no quick way to learn. Read about EQ. Learn how to use a parabolic EQ plugin. Read about compression. Experiment by moving knobs and sliders and see if you can hear how the sound changes depending on how you move it. Think about the mix before you start... how do you want it to sound... what instruments do you want in the front or back or left and right. Experiment with reverb and delay effects (a little usually goes along way). If you have any specific questions ask, and I or others will be happy to answer.
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