Maintaining Levels on Saving

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Member Since: Mar 20, 2011

Hi. Can anyone help with an issue I'm having on saving files? I'm restoring some old radio programmes from the 60s, a lot of which are at low levels. I've boosted the levels and lost a lot of the peaks so that the general maximum is just below -1db. I'm happy with the result, even though I'm new to this.

However, when I save the file and re-open it, my max limit goes to pot and there are peaks 'above' -1db that weren't there before, with some max'ing at 0db.

Sorry if this doesn't make complete sense - as I said I'm a noob - but if anyone has any advice on how I can preserve what I've edited when saving it would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul

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Since: Mar 20, 2011


Mar 20, 2011 07:28 am

Sorry - should have mentioned that I'm using Cool Edit Pro

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Since: Nov 27, 2007


Mar 20, 2011 08:40 am

set up a limiter on your master channel and set it at the desired level and you should be right.

Do you mean its just something setting the levels off somehow when you save?

Or could it possibly be something popping up the fader level whjen you load it back up?

Are you using an interface?


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Mar 20, 2011 09:06 am

Many thanks for this - it looks as if the hard limiter could be the answer.

What's happening is that I've been manually limiting to no more than -1db (by boosting to 0db then reducing by 1.2 to bring the maximum just below the -1db line). Not sure if that's the right way to do it, but it achieved what I was after. However, when I saved it and then re-opened it, the levels were varied, with some peaks going above the -1db line. I don't think the fader levels were changing at all - it just seemed to open normally, but as I've described.

Not sure what an interface is? Don't think I am though!

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Mar 20, 2011 09:36 am

on your faders you have 2 sets of numbers correct?
One big one, that sets where you want it, and another smaller set of numbers, those ones will tell you the tracks loudest peak.

Eg;
If you click on the fader knob it should reset the smaller numbers there.
That way when you play the track from start to finish, where those numbers finish up is your loudest peak throughout the song or piece and you will know for sure if those peaks yor getting is coming from the piece or something else.

sounds to me like when you start up your Cool edit project, its just a startup related pop or click thats doing it, in which case i wouldnt worry about it.

anyway, if i were you i would set your limiter at -2 or -3db and go with that, i think that be the safer bet.
just gotta make sure with yer limiter that the release is set right or you might notice it working or pumping.

you can also use a compressor instead if you dont want to limit.
they be a similar type of thing. except a compressor in your case can be set to compress the peaks rather than brickwall them.

would probably be a better choice quality wise.

What youre wanting is more of a mastering thing, whats it for?
Personal use or commercial?
If for personal i would go with light compression and stick around -2 to-3dB.

Im no guru at this side of it though, im sure you will get many more suggies mate. probably better than mine.

why not just bounce the whole thing down and play it and see how it sounds and if it peaks on your fader?

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Mar 20, 2011 10:11 am

Thanks - lots to think about there! I'll have a playaround with CEP and see what I can come up with. At the moment I can only see one set of numbers - showing the actual levels as it plays and nothing to limit it - that may be the problem with a setting I need to switch on?

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Mar 20, 2011 04:27 pm

Many thanks for all the above help with this. It looks as if the answer is to edit up to 0db then before saving, reduce to -3 and when I re-open the file there are no unwanted extra peaks.

Cheers,

Paul


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Mar 20, 2011 09:14 pm

the smaller numbers arent a limiter, the just tell you where where highest level of audio has been on that track.

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