New guitar for recording
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Posted on Oct 09, 2010 09:30 pm
chemeleon
Member Since: Oct 09, 2010
As the topic implies, my current electric is getting a little tired and worn. It's a B.C. Rich Beast, which to be fair looks awesome and sounds great through an amp, but due to some bad repair work the high end is completely gone, and so any recording in my home studio sounds lifeless and unappealing.
So... I'm in the market for a new guitar. I'm fairly adept at sound engineering but when it comes to what makes a great sounding guitar I'm a little lost. As I'm going to be recording through my studio pc and generally use plug-ins and amp simulators to wring out the sound I'm going for, I guess I'm looking for something with clean output and little to no colouration. I'm not sure that's enough to go on on it's own so I was hoping you guys might be able to give me some tips / recommendations.
btw - I'm also looking for a bass with the same requirements in mind if my bank balance allows it... I'd be equally happy for any recommendations in that department :)
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Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Oct 09, 2010 10:10 pm Ive played alot of guitars but my ESP LTD Baritone is good. Nothing comes close to its sustain and real tight sound especially on the heavy mutes.
I guess your guitar choice could also depend on your tuning to an extent.
If youre in E then i would stay at 24 or 25 and half inch scale.
But if youre going to drop down then i would have a look at a baritone which is 27 inch. they really sound sweet.
Oct 11, 2010 04:35 am why dont you just fix your beast? swap out electronics, pots, pickups, etc
you dont need to go buy a whole new guitar if your problems are electrical
or pay 700ish for any of the neck through BC Richs. better hardware/tonewood/craftsmanship than any esp, schecter, or jackson of equivalent price
i had an ESP M-II, not LTD mind you, that i sold cause my BCR JR V smoked it in every category
@ dematrix. fixed bridges have more sustain by nature, but i can promise with a good set up any guitar can have awesome sustain, every guitar i have has a floyd (people always hate on them and say they suck sustain) but when set right they'll sustain longer than needed. and for tunings/scale thats poor advice, i play in open d with all my 6's, if you know how to set up your guitar the tuning doesn't matter with scale as much as the set up and string gauge (until you go to 7 and erg land). a baritone could throw off the entire bands mix. it may sound good alone, but thats not what matters. its the soundscape as a whole
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Oct 11, 2010 06:34 am @ Engladdict
Dude what are you talking about?
Youre playing in drop D, big deal, any guitar can support drop D.
I actually didnt state what drop tuning i was talking about.
Here's some actual facts for you you might wanna consider,
when you tune down, too far, with a scale that cannot accomodate that tuning, the intonation goes out, i dont care how much you think you "know" your guitar, it goes out, and no amount of ****ing around with the saddles and whatnot will ever change that. It'll be out and thats all there is to it.
Your really jumping the gun there suggesting im giving poor advice, when i havent actually gotten into any details about anything really.
Drop tuning to D isnt what i was talking about, i was talking B and lower, even C is pushing it. Youre gonna lose sustain and intonation, its friggin basic physics if you think about it.
Drop D is is one string a step down, it's nothing, the rest of the guitar is still in E.
If im wrong why do they then even bother making a baritone?
As for the baritone messing up a mix,
dude i dunno what youre talking about. Thats absoulutely ridiculous. I'd like to hear your theory on that one.
Thats like saying 2 different amps will do the same thing?
On the contrary.
i'd also like to add, you can have a million strings on a guitar, but if you still have a small scale, string gauge doesnt mean ****.
Scale length is what makes a guitar able to tune lower and keep its quality in the realms i stated, nothing else.
sure you can do it with smaller scales, i used to do it, but your losing quality in every way.
Who the hell wants telephone cables for strings? They sound like crap IMO.
I use 11/52's on a baritone in drop C (a baritone isnt really needed for drop C, you can get away with 25 and a half) and i dont have an opinion on Floyd roses, i just dont like them, no reason, i couldnt give a **** if you like em, use em, simple. Sustain isnt the reason i bought mine. Its one of many.
I dont believe
chemeleon ever mention anything about electrics in his guitar either mate.
Oct 11, 2010 07:48 am +1 dematrix
Oct 11, 2010 08:37 pm Ummm............
so..........
chameleon............just to uh........clear the air a little.........what precisely is wrong with your high end?
And maybe you can help me. I always record guitar through an amp with moving air and have always found the tone i want through mic placement and room choice.
Just recently I have recorded a song using the preamp out of my amp and it sounds super buzzy fuzzy high end zipper fuzz. The amp settings are exactly the same as they were when i found the perfect tone. But now that the room doesn't play a role, and the mic doesn't play a role, my sound is drastically different.
Do you notice this excessive high end fuzz when recording distortion guitar with no moving air . How do you effectively rid this from the tone. I'm fairly adept engineering myself and have always been unsuccessful in getting the right tone without a certain mic in a certain room.
