Recording w/mic'd triple rectifier....
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Posted on Oct 08, 2010 04:13 pm
wheeler
Almost August West
Member Since: Mar 12, 2007
...which is obviously too much amp for me, as this post will reveal. Chain is guitar - tubescreamer pedal - amp - fx loop (reverb, delay) - cab. I'm mic'ing the 4x12 cab (mic about 6 inches from cab just off center of a cone) with a Sterling Audio ST-51 through a Tascam US-144 (phantom power on) into Sonar Home Studio 6. I have the output on the Tascam cranked...but I still have to turn the amp up to what appears to me to be an unnecessarily high volume to get a decent signal in Sonar (I know...that's how you get good tone out of that amp...that's a seperate issue.) I am unclear as to the difference between boosting "Trim" and "Volume" in my guitar track (I read in the forums that trim is pre-fx and volume is post...) but I've resorted to jacking both of those up. Any suggestions on what adjustments can be made to generate a signal boost without cranking up the amp? A friend suggested getting one of the inexpensive ART preamps, but I believe the Tascam has a built-in preamp, and running a preamp into a preamp just sounds like bad news...
Thanks!
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Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Oct 08, 2010 10:05 pm your trim is your gain.
Do you have a vol Pad somewhere? could be that.
If you find it and turn it off, be sure to move the mic away and test first.
when you speak into this mic is it ok, plenty of vol?
I cant comment too much, im not a full bottle on this gear, plenty here that are though, hang in there and your questions should get answered.
wheelerAlmost August WestMember
Since: Mar 12, 2007
Oct 08, 2010 11:21 pm Hi Dematrix and thanks for the reply. Trim=gain...thanks! Easy enough. I don't know what a volume Pad is but I can tell you that I am using no digital effects (just the loop in my amp) and have not inserted any type of controls into the project besides those that autopopulate in Sonar. I tested vocals on the mic and they come through just fine...but theres an occasional click that makes me hope I haven't damaged the mic by jamming it up 6 inches from a 150 watt amplifier....
wheelerAlmost August WestMember
Since: Mar 12, 2007
Oct 08, 2010 11:51 pm FIGURED IT OUT (I think)!! I re-read a bunch of threads hoping it would click, and I believe it did. I thought I had the output set correctly from the Tascam but I did not. Adjusted to 100% mic output. Left the trim and volume at 0 and recorded at that level. Played project back and boosted trim (read: gain, thanks again Dematrix) until the signal had the strength I liked, and then used the volume fader to make it "sit" in the mix the way I wanted (MassiveMaster points this out in a couple of threads).
Does this sound like the appropriate procedure? I know that the rule of thumb is that "if it sounds good, it's good", but recording is a hobby I've been looking forward to for years so I want to make sure that I learn the fundamentals properly.
Thanks again!
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Oct 09, 2010 01:28 am hey man,
i think pretty much if you strive to have your amp calling the shots vol wise its good.
Im doing some recording right now with my amp too. I got it cranked fairly loud and i havent had to boost my pre amp gain or anything like that. Everything is pretty much on 0.
I think for mastering and whatnot its best to aim for about
-18.86dB in your DAW or something like that when recording, it helps with the process and there's no chance of it peaking.
Yeah the fundamentals are gonna be best to learn in the end.
Im learning off an engineer right now, well i will be starting next week sometime. Cant wait to finally be set straight on some things more exclusive for metal recording.
Good luck with it all.
