Help me reach my dreams? Good low latency audio interface for midi/usb keyb

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Member Since: Apr 21, 2009

Hey!


I want to start composing/recording some of the things I come up with on my piano. I have a cheap Yamaha YPT-400 Keyboard I got for $100 at BestBuy. It has a usb MIDI out. I've tried recording some things to Fl Studio and Cubase 5(Academic Version), but there's a big delay when I press the note and when the EastWest VST plays the sound.

I want to mainly record piano and also some orchestra pieces using EastWest's Platinum PLAY Orchestra pack I bought. (I like Epic Music :P) It kind of sucks I can't really use it yet until I get a setup.

Software-wise, I've tried switching to the Asio4Allv2 driver, but sometimes it can't access my audiocard's output (It's in use). I use the directX ASIO Full Duplex driver right now, but I can't get the buffer lower than 512, so there's still a noticable lag. There's also a General ASIO Low Latency driver, but it doesn't seem as loud as the other ASIO drivers. Seems like it only comes out of one speaker. It doesn't give me the 'punch' I want!

Also, When I try to set the latency low sometimes using software-side ASIO drivers, sometimes I hear a cracking sound. If I set it high, it lags. It's like it's not meant to be :/


Anyways, do you guys have any recommendations for me? Most people I've read about recommend using the sound card's ASIO driver, but mine doesn't have one.



I really just want a good quality, low latency, audio interface that accepts midi. Preferably with more than 1 usb midi input. Im thinking about buying a second midi piano, because my piano can't seem to output more than 1 midi channel (Although it says 16 channel midi in the manual). I would like to play the Double bass with my left hand, and play the violins right my right, but I don't think that's possible.

Thanks guys!! Hopefully once I get setup, I'll be able to finally record some of the epic things I come up with and post them online, eventually maybe earn money from them :P

For years I've never been able to get past the hardware stage!!


My Setup:
[Computer]
Intel i7 980-X CPU on a Rampage II Extreme Motherboard.
12GB DDR3 Partiot Extreme Ram
Onboard Audio :(, X-Fi Xtreme Audio Dumbed Down (SoundMax). No ASIO support.

[Software/Misc]
FlStudio (Trial)
Cubase 5 (Academic Version with Dongle)
EastWest Qualtum Leap Platinum PLAY Edition
Alicia Keys Piano VST
TonePort UX2 (Bought for Mic input).
Yamaha YPT-400 USB Midi Piano/Keyboard

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jun 28, 2010 08:48 am

Jeezuz, 12GB of RAM?!?! AWESOME.

If you are simply recording via this USB...can't you just plug the keyboard straight into a USB port without needing to put any audio device in the middle...and just using that for the audio output?

Your keyboard probably can only output a single channel at a time, but can send out on any of the 16 available channels...just one at a time, that's all.

To get around that limitation you can simply record one channel at a time and multitrack yourself in Cubase.

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jun 28, 2010 05:32 pm

I would consider getting a PCI card for your audio / midi work. Take out the SB thing, and put in something like a M-Audio 2496, which has MIDI IN/OUT.

I'm not sure what is plugging into where, as you say it's got USB MIDI out, so are you plugging from the keyboard USB output to a USB port? or are you plugging from USB output to MIDI input on PC (possibly joystick / soundcard), or are you plugging from MIDI output on keyboard to MIDI input on PC, or MIDI output on keyboard to USB input on PC.

My keyboard can split the keys, but I don't know if it can send on different channels, as dB stated. I think it's only 1 channel. I'd have to check, i guess.

EDIT * Oh yeah, disabling the onboard sound may be a good idea. Why leave things running and active if they take up memory / resources, and possibly conflict with other devices.

Member
Since: Sep 30, 2008


Jun 30, 2010 06:34 pm

I have a PCI card by M-Audio, the Delta 44, 4 line ins, and I a midi keyboard that plugs in via usb and a nanopad for drums... it's about $150 new (the sound card).

I get almost 3 ms latency running at 96/24, but when playing back a ridiculously large project, you may want to increase the buffer size (thus increasing the latency some). But hey, you might get even lower latency than me if your software and OS are x64 (this is crucial)...I only have 8 GB of RAM!

Good luck buddy, lemme know if you have questions, we seem to be of similar interests. Until you buy a card...and I'm sure you've already done this...but you may check out generic drivers such as ASIO4All

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