Steinberg V's Digidesign for new comer....??

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Member Since: May 30, 2009

Hey all,

Slowly putting together my own studio at home. My style is more MIDI focused with VST plugins. Purchased the MotifXS6 and the BM6A MII's. (pumped!!)

Have been researching for the past 2 months and intend to buy additional equipment in Aug.

My hope is to purchase correctly the first time and grow into the equipment. I would appreciate a professional opinion from people who genuinely know the equipment.

I suppose my question is do i head down the yam/stein path (full intergration) or build out of quality components.

Option 1:
Steinberg: Cubase, cc121 & 816csx with motifXS6 fully intergrated seems like an ideal solution. Does anyone have any comments regarding this equipment..? Flaws? Limitations? The useability of cubase? Sound Quality V's $ spent?

2:
Protools: Digidesign 003 Bundled. Limits? Useabilty re VST etc? Sound qual? Functionality and ease of connection with my motif??


Additionally: comments on the RME800Firewire, superior or not to the 816csx??

Logic 8 and Abelton?? Both look great but once again how do they intergrate with digi003 / motif etc?

I am not a computer genius, I just want to make boss trax and get absolute bang for buck.

I realise this is a fairly open ended post but any crucial tips you may have which will assist my decision would be greatly appreciated.


Cheers,

Panwar.



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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 30, 2009 12:55 pm

I'll be back with some comments on this a bit later today.

And yes, just quickly, the 1st option you list is probably the best alternative for you.

I'll explain later.

Welcome to HRC by the way.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 30, 2009 07:21 pm

OK, sorry for the delay.

I'll state right off as well I'm not biased toward Cubase as I'm a die hard Sonar user and have been with Cakewalk since their very first sequencing program on floppy a very long time ago.

There are a ton of things on the plus side that would make me opt for the Cubase system over the PT system with the Digi any day of the week.

The Steinberg/Yamaha system is a very well integrated system and should really be a basic plug and play set up. Of course there will be drivers to install and such, but I'm getting at the fact it should set up simple and all component's will play nice together as they were designed to do so.

And yes, the biggest factor for you as with me would be that Cubase as with Sonar is designed with midi sequencing as a very big part of the system. I use both hardware and software synthes and could never have done the work in the past with PT that I can do in Sonar. Not without spending upwards of 10 grand or more.

There really is no downside to the Steinberg set up you are looking to do. It should give you a long period of service with simple upgrades along the way to software or firmware and that would be it.

As for comparing the interface's, they are both going to be pretty equal as far as quality goes. And the Steinberg unit may be available in a package along with the other hardware to make it even cheaper.

Logic, well it isn't very logical at all and can really be a PITA to try and learn. As well again, it won't give you the option's that the Steinberg set up will.

Ableton, well that software isn't even really in the same league as the others. While it is good at what it does do it does not have the full on ability to crank out a complete finished mis as we would do in Cubase , Sonar and the like.

My only comment's on Pro Tools are this. Digidesign is a company based on making proprietary hardware and software. Meaning that their stuff will only work with their stuff. And they price it accordingly with the fact that for years the industry was snowed into considering it the industry standard and only product to use professionally.

I run a Professional studio and have been using Cakewalks products alongside others since the beginning of the digital revolution and I have never been told my work or sound sucks and can't be used because I didn't do it in Pro Tools.

So take that with a grain of salt, and the fact that to do an exact set up like you would with the Steinberg rig would cosst at least 3 times the price using Digidesign gear and software. And it would be outdated and require another huge outlay of money in 3 years or less. Digidesign has the most expensive upgrade system on the face of the planet today. And you don't get nearly the bang for the buck with Digi either.

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