New Song\Recording - Mix Suggestions

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Czar of Turd Polish
Member Since: Jun 20, 2006


So I have started recording local bands and finally charging a little money for my time, it's flat rate per song but I'm picky about who I work with. I have a decent portfolio but really want to make this shine for future clients.

All we have done is track and compress the vocal, plus a little volume adjustment. The vocal is only a scratch track sung in my hallway (a darn good one) and will be replaced.

That being said, what do you hear happening.

Me, I know the bass needs to lose a little boom on the lower end, the kick needs to come through just a tad more, and beings I recorded his keys dry (78 Yamaha) I'm thinking some verb to give it some air, possible re-amp but doubt it.

Song is called "Human Resources" and is just plain fun.


All suggestions welcome, this is my first time charging and really want to wow them. They are at the local college taking music classes which could really get me some business if all turns out well.

Last buy not least, how nice it is to have someone who actually "wants" a natural tone.

edit: oh yeah, there are some quiet botched drum fills that bled onto the scratch vox, they are still there but will be gone.

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Czar of Turd Polish
Since: Jun 20, 2006

Apr 06, 2009 04:02 pm

Sorry to bump, but I would love some suggestions to try before they come back over, which is tomorrow.

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Apr 06, 2009 05:37 pm

Other then the things you noticed, all I can think of is the little muffed part in the keys right about the 0:13 mark or so. Just a little bobble that sticks out a bit.

But as you stated, I would maybe beef up the drum sound a little bit. This kind of jam music without a guitar in it can really benefit from the brass being a bit more prominent in the mix so don't be afraid to get the over heads a bit hotter picking up some of the brassy goodness. A touch ov verb might help that as well.

Verb on the keys as well is a good idea. I would just work the bass guitar to show a little more attack sound and it will all be good.

Czar of Turd Polish
Since: Jun 20, 2006

Apr 06, 2009 06:09 pm

True on the OH's, didn't think of it like that. Little beef to the drums, they may actually have enough once volume balanced. So are you thinking an overall verb on the drum bus, or some verb specific to the OH's plus a little on the drum bus? I sometimes double up on the snare since I mic so close.

On the bass, I recorded a DI, the D6 on the grill and also my K2 about 5" from his fingers. Once I get those balanced properly it should give a little more definition to the bass, the K2 finger noise is actually very usable from what I can tell so far.

On that keys at :13, I am not honestly sure if that is a missed note, or a stall of sorts. I watched him play the whole thing and he was really happy with all but the solo, we will be retracking that portion as well as a SoundFX type intro so they tell me.

So one more question, I am actually liking the natural verb of my hallway on the vox. Do yall mind it? Am I just hearing things? Once retracked with good monitor and no other noise it might be just the sound for the song.

Anyways, they were extremely happy during the tracking phase, I want to make them even happier when they hear the progress. I want them to be more than satisfied as they could be a potential word of mouth goldmine.

Thanks Noize

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Apr 06, 2009 06:37 pm

I agree the beef will probly be there as well. On the verb, I would try it both ways now that you mention it. A pinch to make the OH's shine might work before it hits the drum buss. Nice thought on that for sure. But it may or may not work, but worth giving it a try.

Cool on the bass thing then as well. Once its mixed you'll be golden there.

And ya, it sounds like a booboo, but there is enough stall that it may have been intentional as well.

On the vox in the hallway. Now that I listen again, it does have certain sound to it. If you can you should maybe hang another mic in the hallway farther away and pick up a bit more of the room itself and try mixing that in to add to the ambiance. Not sure the hallway will cater to that but you never know until you try. But ya, I can hear a slight echo there so your onto something with that for sure.

And if their happy, then your happy too.

Czar of Turd Polish
Since: Jun 20, 2006

Apr 06, 2009 06:39 pm

Always good stuff Noize, thanks again. I am off work and on my way home to do some mixing!

Anybody else chime in, I will check back after a bit for words of wisdom.

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Apr 06, 2009 08:20 pm

So your posting on HRC while yer driving???????
Since: Nov 27, 2007

Apr 06, 2009 08:52 pm

yeah agree the drums need a bit more oomfh. and keys some air too. maybe a bit more air again in spots here and there.

can hear what you mean on the kick. needs to be louder.

im thinking a touch more higher eq verb for the vox.

good to be making some money with ya gear too eh?

Since: Jul 02, 2003

Apr 07, 2009 12:48 am

Nothing I can really add to whats been said so far, just adding my agreement, for what it's worth. :)


Czar of Turd Polish
Since: Jun 20, 2006

Apr 07, 2009 11:29 am

Appreciated, if I get 3 people telling me the same thing which is along the lines of what I was thinking, then I think we are heading in a good direction.

I tried out the stuff last night...

Little attack on the kick with a little more volume.

Got a better tone with the bass, still not happy yet. Will probably line6 the DI track with an old ampeg tone.

The cymbals were verbed just a tad before getting verb on the drum buss as well, I also gave them a little more volume and it is nice imo.

Thanks all!

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