Mar 13, 2009 08:03 pm I'll try and catch up with this one this weekend and listen. I'll be interested in hearing what it is.
comment my rough mix?
Posted on Mar 12, 2009 12:02 am
syrettezombie
Novocaine Records Engineer
Member Since: Feb 21, 2009
hello again,
i'm fairly new to this site and have fallen in love with you guys, talk about real help! ahah
"full of wisdom this site is" - yoda
would some of you listen to a couple of my rough mixes and shoots some tips my way
www.myspace.com/anestheticfrank1
go there, and on our player, i have a couple songs i've recorded posted, any critiques would be much appreciated!
-Dan
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Mar 13, 2009 08:03 pm I'll try and catch up with this one this weekend and listen. I'll be interested in hearing what it is.
Mar 14, 2009 11:07 am Hmmm I only listened to broken jaw beings I'm on my laptop, this mix sounds a tad rough but I can hear everything and can't make any judgements of these speakers. I will say, Man this reminds me of being a teenager, happy to see the Melvins as an influence. I really loved the energy overall.
Mar 14, 2009 01:41 pm Before I dive in too deeply here I'll tell ya right off, I really like the tunes for what they are. As written pieces they are great and represent the garage type music or music from the so called grunge era. In reality it is still called garage rock. But they are arranged and played accordingly.
That is a very raw sound indeed. Fractured Jaw started out a little on the loose side with everyone's timing being a bit off. Then it tightened up toward the end.
Mr. Dufflebag, now that was interesting. Again, a few spots that things got a bit out of time together but not like Fractured.
Track 3, well that had a much better bass sound to it and the drums were a bit more present in it and didn't sound so far back or buried in the mix. Much better timing and control throughout the song. The backwards ending was interesting but kind of strays from the feel of the garage feel of it because of sampling nature of it. But it works.
The Beatlemania thing I guess I just didn't get it on that one.
Box of broken Scissor's. Again, a lot of off timing and things were really loose on it. There is a really cool tune in there though for sure and you can hear it right off.
I guess before I get too deep into figuring out what might help I'll ask you to maybe post exactly how you recorded each piece. Like the drums, guitars, bass and vocals.
What was the set up to record each track? There are spots were things sound clear and then there are places were there is so much lower mid that it completely jumbles everything together.
Otherwise, like I said. These are really cool tunes for sure. Its stuff I would listen to for sure.
Mar 14, 2009 05:20 pm thanks
mk, lets see
box of broken scissors i didn't record, i forgot that was posted, that was recorded when we played a live show out in anaheim by their house mixer
the others though were all done relatively the same
i recorded the drums in my bedroom, one dynamic kick mic, and an mxl condensor overhead, through a yamaha emx860 mixer then to my lexicon omega then to my laptop into cubase, i have my guitar player play in the room, and he plays through his marshal head, and i just split the headphone out, so they can both have headphones and so that our drummer has something to play to
then,
i put a 57 on my guitarist's stack through the yamaha through the lexicon, so on and so on, he played to the drum track i recorded on headphones
then i record a second track of him playing with a fuzz pedal
bass, i use the DI out on my carvin b800 bass head, (which i dont really like, i just ordered the ART tube MP pre thing, for like $30 cuz i hear works as a pretty nice little DI for bass)
vocals i used a superlux cm-h8c and doubled them up for endings of verses and for all choruses, i sang them myself, and our drummer did backup on all of the chorus's except for fractured jaw
the timings do throw me off sometimes because when i record a new track while another one plays back, it's always recorded late by a second or fraction of a second, so i do my best to realign it, also i was having a lot dips and cuts in the recording because i had driver issues and ram issues, that i started some threads on, and got fixed since, haha that's actually how i came across this site because of those problems, that's pretty much it as far as set up goes, i hope that helps you give me some advice,
thanks again
-Dan
Mar 14, 2009 05:22 pm track 3! forgot to mention that one
that one's
Maple Syrup Urine Disease
i re-recorded the accents the drums have in certain parts
i just put two 57s one on the low tom and one on the snare, and i had my drummer play to thte track again, so i doubled those up
May 13, 2009 04:04 pm Hi dan.
songs sound good overall.
not to up on this sort of music, or how raw you are going for - but the only thing i would ask is did you double the guitars??
it ( to me) sounds like everything is going down the centre.
It would open the mix up alot more if you recorded the rhytham guitar twice, then pan one track left and the other right.
I normaly hard pan them or at least to 80% depending on the song.
Cheers.
Sion.
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