Sep 11, 2008 03:26 pm I found these links... first one seems the most in depth.
www.hometracked.com/2007/...ter-drum-tones/
www.mutantaudio.net/tutor...utorial_ma.html
faderwear.com/guides/parallel_compression.shtml
can someone explain parallel compression?
Posted on Sep 11, 2008 09:36 am
Dematrix
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Member Since: Nov 27, 2007
can i get some info on this.
i really dont have a clue.
For instance parallel comp. on drums.
Cheers.
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Sep 11, 2008 03:26 pm I found these links... first one seems the most in depth.
www.hometracked.com/2007/...ter-drum-tones/
www.mutantaudio.net/tutor...utorial_ma.html
faderwear.com/guides/parallel_compression.shtml
Sep 11, 2008 05:53 pm exxcellent, cheers for that mate. will have a sus a bit later.
Sep 11, 2008 07:50 pm Ya, just to put it simply. It is a form of mixing we have used for years. Mixing the dry track with an effected track, in this case an over compressed track. I do the same thing with processor's such as Magneto, PSP Vintage Warmer, VC64 and many other effects as well.
Sep 12, 2008 09:43 am well, it works really well on so many levels.
guitars, drums, bass, and it free's up the performance metre in my software quite a bit.
thanks for the info.
Just latley i've been learning alot of really valuable stuff, its the little things that make all the difference to your mix.
Sep 12, 2008 10:25 am I checked a couple of those tutorials - briefly...
I'm not sure if they actually covered it, but the absolute easiest way to enact surgical parallel compression (assuming you have latency compensation) is a simple aux send.
You can slop everything in at equal levels if you want (as the tutorials do) or be more picky about it (highly recommended).
Sep 12, 2008 05:56 pm what i mucked around with was, set up a drum bus, then added drum compress. with the really fast attack etc and then used the sends on each drum to bring in how much compress i wanted.
seems to work good.
is this what ya mean Massive?
If not can you give me the runner?
Cheers
Deon.
Sep 12, 2008 07:00 pm I mean simply sending to an aux with a compressor on it. Sending exactly how much of what you want of any signal you want - Not a sum.
Sep 13, 2008 03:35 am yep tis what im doing, going to try some longer release times on it tonight.
Sep 13, 2008 06:03 pm Ya know, I have been kind of doing this, just not squashing the compressed signal so much.
I do indeed send each drum to the FX bus and then route that into the Drums bus and blend to taste.
I went ahead and squashed it more and am very pleased with the results. Very powerfull yet plenty of dynamic left, too cool!
So, I now know ducking and parallel compression, are there any other standard tricks I should know?
Sep 13, 2008 07:51 pm im actually just using my sends to blend from a compression track. is that the correct way??
my routing is as follows,
eg; my kick drum channel is bringing in desied amount of compression from the compression channel, through the send in the drum channel.
why do ya need a drum bus channel too?
doesnt that put a total of compression on the whole kit?
I think the way im doing it, gives me option of the amount of compression on each seperate track.
someone step in and set me straight if im stuffing this up.
thing is though, if i am, it still sounds really cool anyway, but if there is a better way again, then for sure im keen on that.
tis why im always asking questions. im not just exclusivley a pain in the butt.
Sep 13, 2008 07:58 pm oh yeah, Cpt Tripps, i have an idea of "ducking" but how does one use it,or set it up?
i dont know of any other tricks.
im learning of you guys.
also even though my drums are sounding great, there is still this slight feeling, they just arent sitting right in the mix, almost like there is just a lightly wrong presence about them ya know.
im trying to figure it out.
almost like the its not spreading right or blending.
Sep 14, 2008 11:17 pm Ducking, or side chaining... Can be done a lot of ways too. The way that I do it is that Comp. that I use gives a set of virtual channels to use, A-E, I think... And I just pick which channel I want to affect and which channel I want to use for the trigger.
Sep 15, 2008 12:55 pm Using a bus allows you to do the desired amount on each track also. Since I am sending each channel seperately to the "Drum FX" bus I have the ability to control the volume of each instrument via the send volume knob.
So...
All drum channels are EQ'd and routed to the "Drum" bus, the send from each channel is routed to the "Drums FX" and tweaked for volume. The "Drums FX" is then sent back to the "Drums" and volume is tweaked until they work well together.
Now what this won't do is give you different compression settings per drum. In one of the articles they went over that also, they simply created "Kick FX", "Snare FX" etc.. and then routed those to the main "Drums" bus.
Sep 15, 2008 05:51 pm mmm this may answer the question i have in another thread. me thinks im getting it wrong.
the way i have it is eg: kick channel, which i left as stereo out, then used the sends in that channel to bring in compression and reverb from compression and reverb channels till its sounds right.
now im having problems with stuff. am i still doing it corretly but in a different way?
i can already see a possible issue as im typing this, with the stereo out, but im not sure.
sorry for cloggin up, with a similar question in "computers an software"
Sep 16, 2008 06:50 pm If you want a dedicated Drum buss you will need to create a separate buss and send the drum outputs through that buss first before sending the buss on to the main output buss.
I rarely if ever use the channel sends unless I am going to use one specific effect and don't not worry about what I send to it.
Sep 16, 2008 09:09 pm i dont get what the drum bus is for though.
so you saying,
drum channel outputs > drum bus sends > drum fx> back to drum bus.
sorry, but can someone explain why we need the drum bus?
Sep 16, 2008 10:38 pm Drum outputs> Drum Buss which has the FX on it> to master out.
The buss allows you to keep the effects souly for the drums and nothing else. And you only need one set of FX on the drum buss for the entire kit.
Sep 17, 2008 06:20 am Thanks Noize, i had some of it right. i kinda get caught up in it all and dont see the wood for the trees sometimes.
when ya using hardware it seems so much easier, in front of the computer however, i turn into a space cadet at times.
i think i have it now people, thanks heaps.
Sep 17, 2008 12:37 pm Yeah, I was just stating my way of doing things. I do the drum bus (dry) just so I have a master volume control for the drums once I get them dialed. I then send the FX back to it so I have a blended signal of dry\wet and still have one fader for drum volume and everything stays where it should levelwise. I use sends just so I can control the amount sent from each drum.
Sep 22, 2008 03:08 pm Adding a drum buss allows you to mute ALL of the drums at once without having to mute each individual drum. I use a lot of pre fader sends when parallel compressing; that way I have a dedicated fader on the mixer that controls only the compressed drum signal.
Sep 23, 2008 08:18 pm this is what i have ended up doing in the end. i just link my drum tracks together in the mixer so i can turn em off all at once.
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