sonar 4 producer, I need drum solutions, Useing EZdrummer

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Member Since: Jan 22, 2007

I am having problems getting what I want from ez drummer. I think its a problem with the way I have Midi set up. Im useing microsoft midi mapper. I will admit Im a novice at any kind of midi functions and I have probably screwed up some settings in my system. All I want to do is be able to use beats and fills that are all preset in ez drummer nothing to fancy. So far I have about 20 hours into this and I haven't laid down a Track. Im almost ready to set up and mic my accoustic drums right in the center of my livingroom. (The wife will love that). Any suggestions?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Aug 09, 2008 01:36 pm

do you have a midi driver option besides MS mapper? If so, try it...
Since: Nov 27, 2007

Aug 09, 2008 06:40 pm

what is the problem?

Ya should just be able to drag and drop any of the loops into your song. Then if you want dble click on the loop in your project and you'll be taken into the midi map.

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Aug 09, 2008 08:31 pm

Ya, what midi device or interface are you using to get the data into the PC. The microsoft midi mapper option is a generic midi driver that points you toward things such as their GM synth and windows function's.

Many peep's like EZ drummer and have gotten good results so I think if we can get your controller situation fixed you will be fine.

Since: Jan 22, 2007

Aug 10, 2008 09:30 pm

Thanks for the response all. See I am an analog guy (a guitar player.) All I have is an old Roland S-10 Sampler that has no usb and my computer does not have a standard MIDI input that I can find. As far as an input device I was hopeing that I wouldn't need one if I was using EZ drummer. I can get the EZ drummer program to work in the DAW But my DAW SONAR 4 does not give me any input options from (OPTIONS/MIDI-DEVICES). Only outputs (Microsoft MIDI MAPPER and Microsoft waveable synth).I can open EZ drummer in an AUDIO channel play the samples but they are not routed to my Recording even though I open them on that channel. DRAG and DROP appears to write something to the channel but it will not play back . I cannot open EZ drummer in a MIDI channel at all. So, thats pretty much it. Thanks very much for your reponse'. Sorry it took me a couple of days to get back to ya'll. MUCH THANKS. I know I put the I in Idiot when it comes to Midi stuff. Hell,... I don't even like my keyboard player.

Gear: win xp
Alesis Firewire 16 mixer
EZ drummer
Various Plug ins


Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Aug 10, 2008 09:53 pm

OK, now that makes it much clearer. Yes, writing the drums by hand is just fine, no midi controller needed. It sounded like you were not getting the controller to function, but now I think I see what you want to do.

You simply want to let EZ drummer use its own sounds coming out of the audio channels you have. So simply send its audio outputs to what ever sound card you have and that will be fine.

If you want to have your drum arrangements sent to an audio track simply select the track which you see the EZ drummer audio on and export it to another stereo track.

In the Sonar 4 help section you should find a tutorial on exporting to track or wav. It is also in the manual if you have that.

So ya, no need for midi there at all. My Bad.

Since: Jan 22, 2007

Aug 10, 2008 09:59 pm


Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Aug 10, 2008 10:33 pm

OK, well to start with EZ Drummer is a pluggin. Which is to say it is a software version of the real thing. This pluggin is a sampler type pluggin drum synth.

You need to do a couple of things to make it work. Reading the manual might help some as well.

First, in Sonar open the SynthRack View then click the add synth button. You will get a drop down menu of all the available plugin synths. Choose EZ drummer which should be a VSTi instrument.

This will open another menu. Select the boxes marked open midi track, open all synth outputs and then click OK.

This will automatically open a midi track and one or more audio tracks in Sonar. All of which will be part of EZ Drummer.

Now in the audio track portions, assign that to your audio ouputs from the little box marked audio outputs. If you don't know which one that is simply hover over the boxes and it will pop up a description of what each one is. Then choose the audio output you are using, whether it is an audio interface or your onboard sound card.

Then you can drag a midi file from the provided files from Toontrack or you can write in your own drum beats.

It sounds like you haven't read the manual or anything about EZ drummer yet.

The midi part will take card of itself if you use the synth rack view so don't even worry about that.

And honestly, not trying to be mean here, but yelling at someone who is trying to help you is not a real good thing.

I and others all do this for free, no pay, no nothing. And we read what others post and try to answer as best we can with the info given. With the way you asked the question everyone here including myself thought you were trying to use a midi controller, as you did not state exactly what the problem was to begin with.

So now hopefully this will get you started. But I'll end with the fact that the manual is full of tutorials on all of this, both Sonar's and EZ Dummer's manual. I would suggest giving them each a little bit of a browse to get at least a little familiar with the products and how they work.

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