Posted on Jun 17, 2008 01:16 am
Member Since: Jun 17, 2008
Greetings everyone, I'm new to this wonderful forum although I have been reaming some info from it for some time. Quick history:
26 yrs old, got started on a Kareoke machine about 11 years ago (and of course doing radio shows on a tape cassette recorder since I could speak). Graduated to 4-track tape Tascam, then the much-loved Tascam 488. About 3 years ago got a Tascam digital 8-track, the DP-01, and now have made the move up to Cubase LE.
The new project I am involved with (myspace.com/ihatescranton) was completed on Cubase and obviously it is worlds away from the toys I was playing with before. So basically I've learned how to crawl and now I'm trying to walk. The finished product sounds pretty good (will be posted on myspace soon and available for purchase, cough cough), but it's a first try and already I'm picking it apart and can't stand to hear that godd@mn out-of-tune acoustic guitar blasting out of right field. Anyway.
So, I Hate Scranton is a disco / pop / indie band. Our next project will be for my personal band (I drum in Scranton and play guitar in my own project), Din Perdiem, and will be our first official non-garbage recording. It's got bits of Van Halen, a heavy dose of Metallica and Zep and painted over with the Beatles as far as melody is concerned. It's a heavily guitar-based project.
Before I even think about guitar, however, I need to think about the drums. While I am not the drummer, I know exactly what I need to hear from him as per his style (heavy handed, plodding, but quick fills and lots of double time punk beats).
We are working with a nice Ludwig set, brand new Remo pinstripe top / coated Ambassador bottom. 10-12-16-22. Open front head, felt beater. I've got a nice drum mic package that covers all the drums + overheads, and a wide diaphragm condenser that I usually throw in the back of the room. We've got a lot of space in our personal studio and it is all deadened with minimal reverb. The amount of muffling on the kick we do depends on the song / project.
Also (very important) have the PreSonus Firepod 8-track interface.
Now, the questions.
1. On the last project, we had an issue with the snare. No matter which channel we used, how low we had the levels, where we placed the mic, or how many cables we switched out, the snare would clip. Bad. We had to resort to taking the mic off the snare and putting it on a stand. This stopped the clipping but led to a snare sound with no guts, no depth. Sounds like a problem with the mic itself, but does anybody have any suggestions? Also, how much would it add to the sound by micing top and bottom of the snare? I'm looking for that gut punch with a ringing undertone. Maybe switch from a wooden snare to metal?
2. I'm just going to say it and get it out of the way: I love Metallica, and I love Lars Ulrich in all of his worthless d**khead glory. I love how he plays with wild, sloppy abandon as if he invented drums and drumming. I particularly LOVE his drum sound on. . .wait for it. . . LOAD and RELOAD. Before you go back to the main forum page and report me for obscene language, hear me out. I've been on vacation for a week with my new Bose headphones, them fancy things with the noise-cancelling feature. I can hear the drums like never before. His drums are sick sounding. They have punch, depth, warmth and to be honest it just kicks me in the face. I am trying to achieve this. It sounds like there is very little processing on his kit, just well-tuned drums. As there is very little documentation of the production of those records, I can't figure out one or two key things: how does he get that sick, Lars kick drum? You guys know what I mean. It's like somebody is stabbing a piece of meat. I don't think he uses triggers on the kick, but I do know that for . . .AND JUSTICE he did the quarter-taped-to-back-of-head thing. Really the same thing applies to all his drums. It is no coincidence that our kit is the same measurements as his. Anybody as pathetically fanatical about his post-80s sound as me? Any tips?
3. I'll keep this one short: For some songs I know we'll be close micing everything but for others (a couple of softer numbers) I'd like to try ambient micing (my preferred method). A general setup tip or two would be great. I've done it numerous times in the past (when yer stuck with recording 2 tracks at a time, hey, whatya gonna do), but never with this new setup.
So, thanks in advance, don't hate me because I love the big L and I'm glad to be a part of this community.
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