Jun 09, 2008 01:33 pm I've tried something similar, I grabbed a section of vocal and applied a never ending echo to it, dropped it in place of the main vocal and apllied a fade in. I just messed around until the fade in was the correct length.
how do you achieve this vocal effect?
Posted on Jun 09, 2008 07:57 am
skeg0
www.dorian-music.co.uk
Member Since: Apr 04, 2008
hi everyone,
Ive always wondered how to create a particular vocal effect and havent been able to figure it out...
It is a vocal effect that you get a lot in music and it exists just before the vocal line kicks in, and it ramps up in volume. The only way i can describe it is as if someone has taken a snap shot of a few milliseconds of vocal line and repeated it over and over again, once after the other, increasing in volume with lots of reverb behind it until the volume kicks in. It kind of sounds like a "aaaAAAHHHHH"!
The only example I can think of off the top of my head is the prodigy and firestarter.
But I know its used everywhere as I have heard it. I was just wondering if anyone knows how it is done, or what the hell I am talking about! I dont think I am crazy! So someone please tell me they know what Im talking about!
Thanks!
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Jun 09, 2008 01:33 pm I've tried something similar, I grabbed a section of vocal and applied a never ending echo to it, dropped it in place of the main vocal and apllied a fade in. I just messed around until the fade in was the correct length.
Jun 09, 2008 01:33 pm It's a reverse reverb effect.
There are a couple ways to achieve it. There are some previous threads on the effect in the forums here. The way I did it the one time I went for it was to take the sound that the effect was leading up to. Put a huge reverb on it. Then take the audio with the reverb in it and reverse it. I had to cut off the very end of the reversed wav to get it to fit, but it sounded dope. Some other people have advised some other techniques, but I don't remember what they were.
Jun 09, 2008 01:42 pm Ok, I guess I didn't really listen to firestarter then much. I was thinking something totally different. I'm gonna use that technique tonight on a cymbal hit I think coolo.
I have a new heavier song where I play 1 guitar with just ride and kick through a couple measures. I applied a low-fi effect to this, when the other guitar, drums, bass all kick in it goes POW, but that reverse cymbal might make it flow better.
Jun 09, 2008 03:05 pm this is the order in which to do it
1. make another track and copy the vocal contents to that track
2. reverse the copy of the vocals (by going in processes or processing then reverse*its like this in most software*)
3. now apply a reverb to the vocal copy (the contents itself and not the track) and make sure its 100% wet, adjust the lenght of feed back to ur liking
4. reverse the copied vocal contents again
thats it
and if u dont want it for the whole song and just on certain words, just automate the levels
hope this helps
Jun 09, 2008 06:08 pm The process used in Fire Starter is done by chopping a bit of the vocal that you want repeated. Then a copy of that bit is actually pasted in multiple times until main part comes in. I've used that effect for years. It can also be done a bit easier by doing using the same chopped bit and applying a quick delay set to the tempo of the tune with as many repeats as you need.
Remember to then use a fade in on the piece of the track to get it all right. Others such as the Prodigy track in question use no fade in actually. Its just s stutter type effect done by chopping bits and dropping them into the track.
The first time I did it was actually using a sampler and dropping in the bit as a sample on a certain note. Then you just hit the note repeatedly as needed. This adds a nice ability to vary the tempo and hits as well s the velocity of the hits.
Jun 10, 2008 09:11 am thanks guys thats a great help!
im not crazy then...
i think ill try the reverse reverb thing and see how that goes, and then maybe try the chopping and repeating.
Just cause the first one is easier and it i think its more what im after.
thanks again!
Jun 18, 2008 02:05 pm ok just because nobody mentioned this (its not with vocals but same idea), i have to say this.
Entombment of a Machine by Job For A Cowboy has a part were u hear the snare fades in... the BOOM! it hits real loud.
its along the same lines as this vocal effect, but its also really cool on the drums sometimes.
you copy the snare hit, process EXTREMLY wet heavy reverb on the copy, reverse the wet track, then right before the snare is actually hit (on the wet track still) you cut it off, then put the wet track right in front of the dry one and fade the begining
its really awesome
Jul 14, 2008 02:23 am another thing it might be on firestarter, is reverse delay. its the exact same thing as reverse reverb, exept you use delay on the reversed track instead of verb. you get these backwards repeats that get louder the closer they get to the "host"vox. reflection from tool's lateralus has reverse reverb on most of the lead vocal through the whole song. you can pretty much guarantee to hear reversereverb on maynards voice on at least 2 tracks on any given tool record.-joep
Feb 11, 2009 09:36 pm Awesome awesome awesome!!! Thanks a million guys. Always wondered how they did that effect. It worked like a charm and I'm a rank amateur at this stuff.
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