Mar 26, 2008 06:17 am the kick and snare sound im looking for is meshuggah like. you can check some of their songs on youtube.
or, on the other hand, the Beneath the Massacre sound like...
check the sound here
meshuggah:
Drums EQ&Mix
Posted on Mar 26, 2008 05:30 am
chondrin
Member Since: Mar 26, 2008
Hi guys!
I know that this kind of topic was up several times, but it was pretty hard to look for all topics and gathering some info from them, so I decided to make one topic to collect all.
I'm kind of new in the recording business, but I really want to learn things.
I want to record a metal song and I use EZdrummer w/DFH kit on it.
Now, my question is how I can get a good start point for the drums.
Kick, snare, toms, cymbals etc.
Anyone has a good EQ starting points?
And another question is the mix of the drums. Any tips on how it should sound like?
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Mar 26, 2008 06:17 am the kick and snare sound im looking for is meshuggah like. you can check some of their songs on youtube.
or, on the other hand, the Beneath the Massacre sound like...
check the sound here
meshuggah:
Mar 26, 2008 08:54 am the ez drummer thing, is that a real kit, or midi or what?
i got suggestions either way, just need to know what that is.
Mar 26, 2008 11:19 am no, its not a real kit.
dfh EZdrummer® is a multi-microphone drum sampler designed for musicians and producers in need of a compact, affordable, easy to handle plug-in without compromising sound quality or control.
It's midi based
Mar 26, 2008 11:51 am It is indeed midi programmed, but the drum samples are real sampled drums, and quite fantastic from what I've heard.
Mar 26, 2008 04:48 pm yeah, its the best thing you can get.
but still, you need to know how to make it sound great and thats what im trying to get here.
Mar 26, 2008 05:03 pm also a good example of what im looking for is Sybreed's drums (probably the best one)
Mar 26, 2008 07:39 pm does it have metal presets or metal kicks snares etc/
i would start with those or just try some different ones out till you kinda get it in the ball park of the drum sound ya want. you'd wanna go for more ya clicky kick, with potential to add punch and probably not your conventinal snare, something without the old "steel type" snare sound. maybe go for a more woody type of sound. something that sounds "wrong" unknow, different.
at the end of the day you cant change a whole lot about the actuall sound you record with so muck around till ya find what ya want. record some try out guitars with it see how it goes.
is this what ya mean??
metal drums are hell compressed too soas long as you pick the drums sound you want there should be no problem. you can add compression and eq later.
Mar 27, 2008 02:55 am yes, theres a metal kit there.
i tried to play with the types of the kick and snare and i found a good foundation.
the problem is the EQ and comp.
I just dont really know what I'm doing when I'm changing the freq. and I want to learn what each Freq. do
Mar 27, 2008 09:10 am Are you bringing it out of EZ Drummer in stereo or multitrack? Also, what plugins do yo have available? Like Deon said, just play around with the EQ on each channel to see what they do. A good exercise for this is boosting with a tight Q, sweeping around, and listening for the changes. This will give you an idea of what frequency range each drum or mic is in. A lot can be done by simply setting levels, panning, and some high pass filtering. EZ Drummer's great isn't it?
Mar 27, 2008 10:17 am EZdrummer is great.
Im bringing it in multitrack.
I have the Waves Bundle plugin pack which means I have EQ's, Comp's and many more...
I know that I should play with the numbers but it would be much easier if I know what exactly Im playing with so I wont just guess what it does.
it would be nice if someone can give me good eq freq/ for start
Mar 27, 2008 12:15 pm There are some general guidlines, I usually wait until I have the guitars\bass\vox at least recorded so I can EQ accordingly.
Here is a pretty cool chart though. It will not tell you what to do, but gives a general idea of where each instrument resides frequency wise. Just mouse over and read on the right pane.
www.independentrecording....ain_display.htm
Mar 27, 2008 09:46 pm yeah, definatley wait till you put some killer tracks of axe down first.
If you try mucking with the eq now youll only have to change it once the guitar is down.
same goes for any insrument.
If you were to do an awsome final mix and then solo, say, the guitars, you will find they sound very different soloed than in the mix.
from my experience they sound, well crapy n thin, but in the mix as a whole they sound awsome, as you've got the rest of the instruments in the song to back them up.
you wanna try not to double up too much with the same eqs.
tis is why yer better of waiting to eq the drume etc.
hope this helps.
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