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Posted on Mar 15, 2008 10:47 am
Walt
Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member Since: May 10, 2002
Is there a way that I can seperate midi channels (in Cubase in my case) into seperate tracks via channels?
What I am wanting to do....
For exapmle: Set up three midi tracks labeled and intended for: kick, snare, high hat. Set all three tracks to record. Play the associated three pads (electronic drum kit) as you would for a performance through a midi sound module, sending midi signals to the DAW. End up with only kick midi signals imprinting on the Kick track, snare midi signals on the snare track etc.
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Mar 15, 2008 10:25 pm Just curious. Why do you want to do this? In Cubase, you should be able to edit the volume, pan and velocity of each individual drum without having to separate the individual parts.
If you are using LM4 or LM9, you should be able to pick and choose samples. If you are using EZdrummer or BFD, it's even more simple as they provide a graphical interface that allows you to do all of the above including mic placement.
All that being said, you will pretty well have to create a new midi track for each drum or cymbal. If you are using a soft-sampler, you can load whichever drum you desire from an audio file. Tons of free sampler vsts out there.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Mar 16, 2008 01:52 am Ya know hueseph, I can't answer that with any real conviction. Maybe it's just a hang-over from recording everything in audio vs midi. I guess what I am thinking is that I can get all of the velocity settings first where I want them e.g. even for the most part, and relitive dynamics where I want them and then adjust the overall volume of the track in the mix via track gain. I am just making the plunge into midi. I am using Hailon (probably mispelled) and therefore triggering samples with midi. I only have Hailon 1, so I can't assign things sample by sample exactly. I am religated to using provided kits, or at least that is my perception. I am lovin it however. I am getting some fabulous sounds out of the whole mess, using an ond Roland TD-7 kit for it's triggers. I am trying to educate myself on the whole midi thing, I will look up the BFD and EZdrummer post haste, as well as LM4 and LM9.
Thanks for the shout! Off I go. Much to learn.
Mar 16, 2008 02:09 am LM9 and LM4 are the proprietary drum samplers that come with and are made for Cubase respectively. LM9 being the freebie. LM4 the retail version.
I actually have a version of Halion, though I haven't used it to any extent. I'll see what I can figure out though.
As far as BFD and EZdrummer, they are a boon to meter challenged individuals like myself.
toontrack.com/ezdrummer.asp
BFD is the standard though, being an RTAS plugin.
www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=1
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Mar 16, 2008 02:20 am Very cool, and thanks again! I was just on another tab looking at each of them. Soooo many products out there. Gotta do some thinkin. I'm not really interested in making loops as much as triggered sounds. Lots to learn.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 16, 2008 06:32 pm Walt, the module will sadly only send data on channel 10. But here is what I do and Cubase has this function as well.
Midi mapping will allow you to segregate each midi not sent to Cubase. You simply set the received data out to seperate channels while still receiving on 10. The incoming note c2 would be mapped to go to channel 1 for the kick on track 1, d2 for snare mapped to midi channel 2 to go to track 2 and so on. Although Sonar has a huge drum mapping application, I am sure Cubase must as well the regular mapping function works just dandy.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Mar 16, 2008 08:31 pm Ok! Well; I'll just have a shot at that! I'll get back to ya wit the results. Yikes...midi...I've gone south.
Mar 16, 2008 11:06 pm Actually, since he's using Halion, he should be able to assign it to any channel he likes. Yes technically, if he wants to designate the track as a midi drum track, it will default to channel 10 but a vsti can be assigned to any channel you like. Of course you wont see the step editor with the drum maps on the side.
Never knew that about the midi mapping though. I'd love to hear an explanation cause it would probably take me a week to figure it out for myself.
