Mar 09, 2008 01:01 pm Video?
how is this band tracking guitars?
Posted on Mar 09, 2008 12:28 am
xlakejunkiex
Ryan
Member Since: Dec 28, 2007
in this video...towards the beginning when the guitarist is tracking guitars, how does the sound of the guitar change (such as overdrive and delay and reverb) when all of his pedals are on the desk and nobody is touching them????
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Mar 09, 2008 05:22 pm hmmm...thats funny the link wasn't there well see if this works
Mar 09, 2008 09:50 pm Well, at first, you can see that he isn't playing. He is only playing the clean section. So, I assume that he had already recorded the overdriven part before hand.
Mar 09, 2008 10:51 pm So do most people record a guitar track by cutting bits and pieces and not by one take?
Mar 10, 2008 02:10 am Oh yes... For that type of music, especially. Now, for other types where the general tone change is small and discrete, maybe not.
Mar 10, 2008 02:29 am oh ok, i always though it would sound like chopped up and not fluid if i did that
Mar 10, 2008 02:35 am Automation. Re-amping. Multi-tracking. All these can effect guitar tone, though I don't see or hear any of this happening in the video. I see and hear palm muting.
Many rack mount effects are midi capable so, they can be controlled from within a DAW. (ProTools in this case.
Mar 10, 2008 03:26 am im not following what you said. im really sorry. :( any other way to put it?
Mar 10, 2008 11:15 am Basically, it sounds like he recorded all the different parts\tones seperately and then did all the tweaking afterwards to make it sound smooth.
I have everyone break the guitars up as much as possible, it makes mixing that much easier as the volume levels will change. The only one I don't break up is the volume knobbers who go from semi clean to dirty using the volume knob only. This could be done seperately also, I have even went so far as to record just feedback swells so I can place them where I want.
Mar 10, 2008 11:57 pm wait, what if the guitar is like a lower volume on one take or the tone is different?
Mar 11, 2008 01:17 am If its a lower volume, nothing to worry about since that's what the faders on a mixer are for.
If the tone is different, it's better to have it on its own track so that you can treat it differently than the other tracks. For instance a clean guitar requires compression a lot of times, but distorted guitars don't require compression so often. So if you keep the clean guitars on one track and the distorted ones on another track, you can compress the clean guitars, add reverb, a bit of chorus, whatever...all without affecting the other guitar parts.
Think about it: you want just about everything that happens in a song on its own track, adjustable by its very own slider on the mixer. OK maybe not everything, but the more tracks, the more control you have. There is a point of diminishing returns though...the more tracks, the more complex your project. For starters its best to keep it simple.
Just in my own recordings I only use drums, bass, guitars and vocals for the most part. I've used 48 tracks easily just doing those 4 basic instruments in one song.
Mar 11, 2008 12:24 pm Exactly, the time the guitar is lower volume or a different tone is specifically when you want it's own track.
Mar 11, 2008 08:38 pm Ok...is it the more tracks you have the more computer space?? what is this i hear about external hard drives...etc...
Mar 11, 2008 10:58 pm External hard drives are a life saver sometimes. They usually connect via USB or FireWire and allow your computer to have more room in storage for your files. All this provided, you have a processor that can keep up with what you're doing.
Mar 18, 2008 01:05 pm Most songs you hear have many, many separate tracks, and most likely many, many takes within each track.
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