Drums...each drum on one track???help!

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Ryan
Member Since: Dec 28, 2007

what would i need to do te be able to record..say a snare on its own track, toms on their own track, kick drum on its own track, and overheads on their own track??? do most people do this? why or why not?

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Czar of Cheese
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Since: Jun 09, 2004


Feb 18, 2008 01:52 pm

Many do that...you need a mic on each drum that you want on its own track, and an audio interface and software program that allow you to record that many tracks at one time.

Ryan
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Since: Dec 28, 2007


Feb 18, 2008 02:17 pm

ok...i know cubase le only lets you record 2 at a time. is there a way to change that? or how about cubase se3? do you know any that will allow me to?

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Since: Feb 05, 2008


Feb 18, 2008 03:21 pm

the big thing you need to focus on is your Audio Interface.

the number of simultaneous tracks that you can record is dependent on your audio interface.

for example; this www.zzounds.com...m--MDOFTRACKPRO
has 2 xlr (microphone) inputs which means you can have two tracks running at the same time recording on seperate channels. not much at all, maybe two well placed room mics.

this www.zzounds.com...m--PRSFSPROJECT
has 8 xlr inputs so you can have 8 simultaneous microphones recording on seperate tracks. this has enough for a great drum set up (overheads, kick, snare, toms, and room mics).

the software program you use have nothing to do really with how many simultaneous recording tracks you have. pro tools, cubase, nuendo, cool edit ect. have essentially an infinite number of tracks that you can have running at the same time. the only thing limiting that is your pc speed and how many inputs your interface has.

the nice thing about the second interface above, the presonus, is that you can link these interfaces together so, if you have the money, you can attach another one and have 16 tracks. and then another, and another and another!

i hope this helps!

www.TheLondonProject.ca
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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Feb 18, 2008 04:52 pm

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the software program you use have nothing to do really with how many simultaneous recording tracks you have. pro tools, cubase, nuendo, cool edit ect. have essentially an infinite number of tracks that you can have running at the same time. the only thing limiting that is your pc speed and how many inputs your interface has.


Actually, a lot of "LE" versions of software do have limits but it is true about the full versions of the software that you mentioned. When software lists the amount of tracks it doesn't mean the amount of "simultanious" recording tracks. Cubase LE is limited to 4 physical input/outputs

I tune down down...
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Since: Jun 11, 2007


Mar 03, 2008 12:24 am

I personally had this problem for a year... I got a PreSonus FireStudio(not project) and it works so well, the next time I upgrade will be to a HUGE multi converter. Ya know... Like the Oxford. :)

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Mar 03, 2008 12:53 am

By recording each "drum" or "voiceing" on a seperate track you can increase your control in the mix but there are limitations. First there's bleed over between mics. The overheads of course will catch everything. Every other mic will pick up varied degrees of other voicings as well. Next theirs gating. Some folks here are good at it; I suck. If you can get gates to trigger at the correct moment you can "dodge" a lot of the mic bleed. You're still not home free. When each mic opens up with the gate there is still mic bleed and a drum head is also an "ear drum" and will resonate and or pick up other voicings from the kit. And then there's the timing issues. Each foot of seperation between mics is a millisecond of delay. Sometimes the truest sound is simply a couple of mics on the whole kit.

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Since: Mar 03, 2008


Mar 04, 2008 05:50 pm

The more mic you use the more phase problems you will have. This is a non issue if you plan on replacing the hits a la drumagog but otherwise can be more trouble than it's worth.

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Since: Apr 06, 2007


Mar 11, 2008 03:43 am

Besides how many mics you are using (or planing to use) just remember that the things that matters the most are: tuning the drums properly, a good drumer and a good room sound, the mics an pre-amps are also important but i think that it wont matter if you have the best mic on a drum if your drummer sucks and the drums are out of tune in a crappy sounding bedroom. Likewise a not so good mic will work better if your drummer plays well, and your drum kit is finely tuned in a proper room.

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