Feb 16, 2003 01:52 pm How far apart did you space the NT1's and the omni's. I know it is best to use the omni's for the spacial quality they can give when place in the right spot's.
Deca Tree. I'm all excited, Any experience?
Posted on Feb 13, 2003 11:15 pm
Walt
Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member Since: May 10, 2002
Just read about the deca tree, or more precisely, the modified deca tree. I had built an array close to it and had no idea. Two NT1's coincedental center and two cardis on the branches. Reading the description my mistake was the cardi's to the sides. They used omnies. That makes sense per what I heard from my experiment. Any suggestions on how to optimize the array?
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Feb 16, 2003 01:52 pm How far apart did you space the NT1's and the omni's. I know it is best to use the omni's for the spacial quality they can give when place in the right spot's.
Feb 16, 2003 04:29 pm The first shot at it was an uninformed shot in the dark. We placed the NT1's on a verticle plane one up, one down, on top of each other , but we exagerated the horizontal angles from 90deg to about 110deg or so. Then we had one 012 out on each branch of the tree at maybe 7 to 10 inches out. Now having read the article on the modified deca tree, I think we had three mistakes. One after drafting out the response of the NT1's at 135deg we should have left them at 90. I think this was because of mistake number two. The 012 cartoid partern was much too tight to be out on the wings and really shed an odd take on the sound field. I can see where omni paterned mics should be much better. And the third is where I am still uninformed. There was no talk in the article about the distance from the "trunk" for the two omnies. Are talking European spaced coincedental of 7 to 10 inches, or third, third, third, spacing as in stagered coverage of the group, or none of the above? The artical just said equadistant from the trunk.
Feb 16, 2003 11:41 pm OK, you do know that you can get omni capsule's for the 012's? Second, do you have a link to the article, or was it in printed form, and if so, where? I will open the big bible of mic trick's tonight and see if I can find it. I know there was also an article about 2 year's ago in electronic musician. I will dig thru my pile's and see if I can find it.
Feb 17, 2003 12:20 am Oh gad! I didn't mean to cause you work! It was in Recording magazine, probably this month's issue. I sent Steve home with it yesterday. I guess deca records used it a lot for large group live recording. It is basicly "T" shaped and suspended from above. The author of the article indicated the origional configuration was one cardoid in center and two omni's on the branches. He liked a modified configuration using coincidental cordiods in center. Don't stress out looking for stuff. I will either get the article back or send you a drawing via e-mail in a few days.
Peace!
Feb 17, 2003 07:28 pm Oh no stress at all Walt. I love diggin thru the old rag's. I usually find other stuff I have been looking for. In Feb. issue of Recording, I must have missed it. And I too have sent my copy to be perused by another. I gotta call him and get it back before he pour's beer in it. I do remember the fact that the original tree did only use one cardi though. I have never used it, but I know several who have, and I believe they opted for 2 center mic's as well. And I think they did get much better result's.
Later dude
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