Cakewalk recording problem...please help.
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Posted on Jan 12, 2008 08:41 am
Brethitmanhart
Member Since: Aug 14, 2007
Hey,
I'm just after setting up my home studio, I'm using Cakewalk Sonar 7, with a XENYX1204Fx mixer and the uca200 sound card that came with.
I know there has been alot of problems with this sound card but it seems to be atleast responding to me
My problem is,
I record something and when I playback theres a buzzing noise coming through, This is when I record through any of the mics or the DI Box I have.
What I have realised is that when I look for the file I have recorded on the computer and play through Windows Media Player it plays fine.
So this means that it's a problem with the playback in Cubase, whether it's a problem with the sound card or what I don't know.
Should I maybe download good HD audio drivers and see if that helps?
Does anyone have any tips?
Thanks alot.
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Jan 12, 2008 02:55 pm Ok, I actually have a different problem to the one I said above, it was my brother who told me the problem and whatever happened I thought he said something else.
My actual problem is with playback in Sonar 7, the play of the file is "jumpy" as in it is slow and skips alot, but the files are recording properly as playing them in windows media comes out fine.
Anyone know what I should do?
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 12, 2008 03:07 pm it almost sounds like your PC can't keep up. How many tracks do you have running? Also, what is the CPU usage. What does the meter in the bottom right corner say the usage is? It may be an issue with your buffers. Try adjusting them.
Jan 12, 2008 09:08 pm Hey, The PC is fine I think as it does record properly and play back through windows media even when cakewalk is open, it's a new machine with a 2.95ghz pentuim D processor, 1 gb ram....That meter down the corner doesn't seem to be moving at all. I may not have it turned on. This problem happens with the very first track.
How do I change the buffer levels if that is the problem?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 12, 2008 09:51 pm You are either clipping your outputs or as BH hinted to the buffer is overloading on playback. I as many other's here use Sonar in various version's and I don't have any such problems with it, even when I am overloading the playback buffer. It is the blame of the audio card in that it probably can't handle the bit or sample rate you are playing back in Sonar.
What file exactly are you finding that is the same as in Sonar? The audio tracks in any recording app will be of a different nature then a common audio track will be until you export it to either mp3, wav or some other format.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 12, 2008 09:58 pm Oh ya, by the way. No use looking for any HG drivers for the UCA unit. There are non besides what are available on the Behringer site. It is a very generic and cheap unit that they give away with the mixer to make it look like a good deal.
Keith WarrenMans reach exceeds his graspMember
Since: Oct 23, 2007
Jan 12, 2008 11:35 pm Also, another thing to look out for that I experienced the first day I got Sonar, is to be sure that you're recording and playing back in the same bitrate and bit depth. It can cause problems like you're describing if the playback is set to use the stock audio card rather than the UCA200, and the values don't match up.
Jan 13, 2008 07:41 am KeithWarren: Thanks but it is the same bitrate and bit depth,
I do think it probably is that the audio card cannot handle the bit or sample rate, but I'm completely new to sonar (and even new to recording apps on computers), could anyone tell me how to change stuff about to maybe try resolve this.
My brother has said that when he was down there with someone who knew about this said that it was recording in 16bit and you couldn't change it to 24bit. Unless you can change this in the UCA200 would I be better off not going through usb sound card and go staight from mixer to a 1/4 inch jack in the PC.
That's what I want to try next but the problem is the drivers for the original sound card that came with the pc are not working in sonar. Any help?
Really sorry for not knowing too much on this myself. And thanks for the help.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 13, 2008 08:06 pm Well I 'll kind of put this in perspective. Out of about 50 or so people that have tried using that UCA200 card, only 3 or 4 have actually gotten it to function in any application. You can't change anything in the UCA unit as there is no control panel for it. I believe you can get it to show up in the windows sound control panel so you might try there, but it still wont do 24 bit, only 16.
Also, now that I re read what you have said. Are you playing the audio through the onboard sound card through media player? I am guessing you are and that is why there is no problem. Try setting the windows sounds to the UCA and see if you get anything then, I am betting you won't.
As far as drivers for the on board sound. You will need to go into the windows control panel and turn that driver back to on.
Jan 13, 2008 10:36 pm Hey,
Thanks a million for the help, I'll check that out tomorrow when I go back into the studio (it's not exactly at "home")
Ye are always really helpful,
I'm thinking of buying a new soundcard now anyway but I'll give the onboard sound card one try tomorrow to see if it can deliver anything good.
I'll keep ye updated anyway but I think it will come down to another case of the UCA200 being proven to be junk....they really should stop packaging these with the behringer mixers.
Thanks...
Jan 15, 2008 12:54 pm Hey,
Even tho' I'm probably getting a new sound card, I still have to test everything, and what I'm trying to do is connect my Mixer (Behringer XENYX 1204fx) into my onboard sound card (Realtek HD).
This means going from Tape Out to Mic In (Or line in).
Do I need to install some software to get this to work?
As I open Cakewalk it has problems with audio drivers, I then did wave profiling and everything on the realtek card is "Not Available"
Anything I can install?
BTW, I'm not really planning on using the onboard sound long term, just seeing will it work.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 15, 2008 12:59 pm You'll probably need to set your bit depth down to 16bit in sonar, as most onboard cards are not 24bit.
If you're going from the mixer, go into the line in (stereo), not the mic in. Mic in will use the preamp on the onboard card, which you don't want. You're already using preamps on the mixer.
Plus, the preamp is probably crap on the onboard card.
You shouldn't need anything more than what you're using now. Tell sonar to use your onboard soundcard, instead of the USB thing. Sonar probably can't see the USB thing, so it's giving errors. Change it to the onboard, and 16bit, and it should be fine.
