sliders vs mains

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Pslam 34:8
Member Since: Dec 04, 2004

In comparison of the two, should the sliders be more maxed and the mains alot lower or vice-versa.
I'm asking this generically.

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Mans reach exceeds his grasp
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Since: Oct 23, 2007


Nov 04, 2007 10:30 pm

The sliders are for tuning of the main volume, at least that's what I've been taught. Then again, if you're gain staging right, this question doesn't need an answer. :)

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Nov 05, 2007 06:25 am

Whichever gives you fat signal, without clipping.

I look at the master fader as how loud I want the whole thing to sound, and the individual slider is how much I want the track to 'mix' with the other tracks.

I think that's what you were asking . . .

I guess if you mean in software, the same kinda applies, but I like to get the master up where the level is around -12 or so, then I up it if necessary after i've gotten a decent mix. I don't shoot for volume till most (if not all) the mixing is done.

Your question wasn't real specific. A little more detail will get a more defined answer.


Pslam 34:8
Member
Since: Dec 04, 2004


Nov 05, 2007 09:02 am

Here's the thing. I want to get the most out of my recording as I can, so I was wondering what's the most important volume to boost. Should I start with the mains at a certain point with the track sliders down and work in the volume on the tracks or should I turn down the mains, get the sliders where I would like them and continue to give boost on the mains.

I guess the main question is where should I start when doing some mixing with the volume to get good levels.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Nov 05, 2007 11:57 am

I think I get it.

I'm assuming this is all on a PC of some kind, and the sliders are in software.

I'll start with a backing track, either drums or something to keep beat.

Then when I add other tracks, I usually just pull down any overly loud track, so as to keep my master levels around -12 or so. Like my bass tracks, often come in way loud, so I bring them down to -18 or so, to make them match my other tracks.

Each new track will add it's own volume, but i bring each one of them down, so as to not be too loud (if need be).

Most time, the master stays at 0db (unity).

Now after I have my mixing done, and all the tracks play nice together, then I may bring up my master a little, just to get the peaks at around -5 or so.

This is the first time I think about volume. Once the mix is set, and the master is up a little, to make -5 to -3 or so, I render the song down to a stereo wave.

I close my project, and open a new one with the stereo wave file as it's only track. Now is when I try to get the volume where I want.

I use EQ, multiband compressor, and a limiter to get the sonic feel like I want it. This is different with every song though, so no real pattern emerges.

So my advise: when mixing, leave master at unity, cut tracks to balance out mix. I almost never boost tracks. EQ can be used, as can Compressor to add content to the track.

After mixing, bring in stereo file, and use tools to bring up volume, master level can be used here, but I usually use the track volume (the stereo file) to bring up level.

hth.

Pslam 34:8
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Since: Dec 04, 2004


Nov 05, 2007 05:38 pm

WOW!!!! Thankyou for that. I really appreciate you taking the time. I think that will definitely help.

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