Jan 21, 2003 10:23 am Oh one more thing :)
Do I need a mixer ? Would it really help ?
Lost no matter what
Posted on Jan 21, 2003 10:06 am
Raph
Member Since: Aug 22, 2002
I've read countless tutorials, how-to articles, asked questions (here and elsewhere) and I still find myself lost in the middle of all this.
I bought some gear, mostly from suggestions I received here (thank you :D) and I'm still having troubles using it, or even knowing how to use it. Plus I frequently hear and read that I still need a bunch more stuff to make my recording sound "warm" or whatever adjective people like to use.
My gear consists of an Audiophile 2496 soundcard, a dbx266 compressor, a Shure SM57 mic, a Fender Princeton amp, a Fender Strat, a Roland V-Drum, a Boss distortion pedal (which appears to produce incredible noise when I turn it on).
First, I don't really know the optimal way to connect everything together so that I can record without having to switch wires all the time and so that I can hear myself play (and playback) at all times.
Second, the dist pedal. Is it normal that it produces quite a bit of noise ?
Third, I don't know how to setup my compressor for my strat and vocal.
By the way, is the Shure SM57 an okay mic for vocals ? (or for my strat ?)
I still have some questions but I don't want to bury you guys :)
Thanks A WHOLE LOT !
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Jan 21, 2003 10:23 am Oh one more thing :)
Do I need a mixer ? Would it really help ?
Jan 21, 2003 10:21 am You appear to be missing one very key component to make it possible to not have to switch wires all the time...a mixing console. I as well have the Audiophile 2496 and the dbx266 (both great units) the compressor should be hooked up through the aux send of the mixing console, then it can be used on any or all channels that you desire by simple sending that channel through that aux send/return loop.
Yes, pedals are incredibly noisy sometimes. How noisy depends on how you are hooking it up. Do not use it to record directly, it should run into the amp and then mic the amp.
Oh, and YES a mixer would REALLY, REALLY help.
Part I: www.dbmasters.net/hrc/new...tory&id=110
Part II: www.dbmasters.net/hrc/new...tory&id=132
Jan 21, 2003 10:26 am What would be a great mixing console ?
Least noise possible and I don't need many bells and whistles, I'm a one-man band.
Jan 21, 2003 10:31 am For your situation I would say this:
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
Behringer 1204...Mic pre amps, some very nice effects onboard, an extra out bus...very, very cool, I have it big brother, the 1622, and it rocks, but I don't think you need all that.
and the 1204 is only $170 which is a bargain for a mixer of this quality...the preamps are clean, the effects are great, routing is easy and logical...very cool board.
Jan 21, 2003 10:34 am If I have a mic pre-amp (midiman) already, does it change anything in the mixer choice ?
Sorry I forgot to mention that ;)
Jan 21, 2003 10:35 am No, not in my opinion, as they all have them anyway. You just don't need to use them. And an extra available pre or two is nice if the time comes where you need a couple more...
Jan 21, 2003 10:38 am okay :)
And do you believe I need other mics than the Shure SM57 ?
I was told it was appropriate for my strat, but some people told me it wasn't appropriate for vocals or acoustic guitar.
Jan 21, 2003 10:40 am The SM57 is a great all-purpose mic, it's not the BEST at any one thing, but it can do a decent job at almost anything. It is great for guitar amps and drums (except for the kick) and does OK with vocals, but there are better vocal mics around, and there are many threads in this forum talking about them, just surf around a little.
But ya, in time you may find yourself craving other mics.
Jan 21, 2003 07:19 pm Thanks a lot !
I can't get stuff from MF (I live in Canada), but I'll shop around for the mixer :)
To make up for the lost referral fee, I mentionned your link to a couple musicians I know online ;)
Again, thank you very much for your help !
Jan 22, 2003 01:00 am The SM57 is technically an instrument mike. The sm58 is the vocal mike that 90% of all stage musicians use. There are some wonderful recording mikes out there with thier own tube compression, but you might not be able to afford $3000.
When using the sm57 on vocals, set yourself up a screen like you see in the videos. That will keep the pops out of the mix. Understand? when you say the word POP to a mike, you will get a "Phh" sound when too close to it. get too far away and you won't get a nice breathy recording. Using a screen lets you get pretty close, but filters out the harsh air bumps. The first one I made was a coat-hanger made into a circle with pantyhose stretched over it in fromt of my mike.
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