Midi output for Sonar

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Terry Ko
Member Since: May 10, 2007

Hello all,
I am using Sonar 6 SE,
and mostly I will use it for MIDI and Audio manipulation, like recording and sequencing.

For MIDI, I always use sampling.

I want to ask,
will you bounce all the midi track to audio wave first(with each instrument) and edit it afterwards? Or you will prefer outputing the final mix via Sonar with DXi without making them to wave manually?



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Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


May 23, 2007 12:11 am

get everything to where you can play it from start to finish and everything is where you want it...then bounce down to stereo mix.

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


May 23, 2007 09:22 am

oh...hold up, i was drunk....

yeah get your midi data to where the "performance" is where you want it...then bounce to a wave 'track' to mix with your other audio tracks...then bounce to stereo.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 23, 2007 09:17 pm

No need to bounce to wave.

If you are using a softsynth or softsampler as a VSTi or DXi in Sonar there is no need to bounce to audio. Sonar will do when you export the file to wave or mp3 or whatever.

Repeat, no need to bounce the midi track to audio if using a software VSTi or DXi.

Terry Ko
Member
Since: May 10, 2007


May 24, 2007 12:30 am

Thanks all,
I understand that there is no need to bounce to midi track when i'm using DXi.

But my point is,
which method is better?
If I want to adjust EQ for each instrument,
I am audio manipulation is better (more precise) than manipulating MIDI Dxi, right?

Please give me some opinions, thanks~ :)

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


May 24, 2007 03:36 pm

i personally don't like throwin' vst effects on a soft-synth's audio output in real-time, it taxes my computer a bit much...it's just my thing...i view midi as a performance...and when sequencing, i get the performance down to where i want it...then i like to have everything as wav tracks for when i mix...

there is no right or wrong,

Quote:
I am audio manipulation is better (more precise) than manipulating MIDI Dxi, right?


...umm i'm not sure what you mean here...there is no "precision" difference.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 24, 2007 10:33 pm

The synth itself IS actually on an audio track in Sonar 6. You simply add an EQ on the tracks insert and you will be all good.

Each software synth has 2 tracks. One for midi data and the other is audio data. You simply need to use the audio track for the FX you want to use.

Terry Ko
Member
Since: May 10, 2007


May 24, 2007 11:38 pm

Thanks all.
To Noize2u,
I understand your point.

For example, I am using Cakewalk TTS,
it contains one audio track.
However, if I use more than one instrument in TTS(As It can contain 16 midi channel),
all FX I applied to that audio track will applied to all instrument, which is not what I want~

so, what should I do in this case?

Thanks so much~

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


May 25, 2007 10:59 am

insert it on that perticular track and not the Main (master) Output which is everything.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 25, 2007 09:12 pm

terryko, I will have to check but I think the TTS can use separate audio outputs when it is running in Sonar 6. But you can look there yourself as well. Simply open TTS up in the synth rack view and when the drop down menu opens asking if you want a midi and audio track see if you can highlite open all audio outputs or un-tick open first audio output only. Then you will have a separate audio track for each instrument.

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