Feb 22, 2007 07:56 am i'm mainly lookin at u db ;), i see u use both :P
project 5 and sonar 4?
Posted on Feb 21, 2007 03:11 pm
Hydrial69
Member Since: Dec 11, 2006
i have recently been using sonar and i now have a possiblilty for gettin project 5 cheap. im wondering if theres ne one here that uses both, or atleast diffrent versions of it, that can tell me the diffrences and if its worth me getting it, i dont want to spend the money on it if i dont need it.
it just seems almsot the same when i look at it,
i figured if i got it then i would record on one and the others mean for assembeling it?
neways ya can somone help me out here?
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Feb 22, 2007 07:56 am i'm mainly lookin at u db ;), i see u use both :P
Feb 22, 2007 08:00 am They are pretty different applications that work well together. I personally never open project 5 as a standalone application, but I do use the softsynths within Sonar all the time (I mean ALL the time). The synths and sounds of P5 are great, and work well within the MIDI tracks of Sonar.
Feb 22, 2007 12:29 pm I would think Noize might chime in here as well. So, Sonar doesn't come with the synths that P5 has?
Feb 22, 2007 12:32 pm Well, if it did, then there would be no need for P5 :-)
Sonar comes with a lot of synths, but not those...
Feb 22, 2007 05:16 pm lol i really dont get the synth things and wut they can do for me?
Feb 22, 2007 05:30 pm they are the same thing as MIDI keyboard/synths...you can use them for textural effects and stuff, or you can play samples of other instruments and make it sounds like a bass, guitar, banjo, horns, choirs or any other instrument you have a sample of for it to work with. I use them a lot for drum beats, sometimes bass lines or keyboard parts and such like that. They are very useful to me personally. Noize2u pretty much uses synths exclusively for much of his work in sound tracks and sound designing. I don't use them THAT heavily, but I rely on them to make tracks of instruments that I can't play, or am simply to lazy too.
Feb 23, 2007 11:38 am wow, so it sounds like its somethin i should b gettin?
Feb 23, 2007 11:41 am I am not saying that, I am saying I use them, many people don't like them at all and prefer it all "real". When MIDI and Digital Audio came out and people hated it and would only record analog and thought digital sucked...many of those people crossed the digital line and now hold the "software instruments suck" line...
Whether or not you want/need it is all dependant on you, your goals, the type of music you make, how you make it, etc...
Feb 23, 2007 01:28 pm ha ha, I only use software instruments. P5 has some very good sample based instruments in it. I love the strings (though most of the presets require a bit of tweaking for my taste). Basses are good for the most part (there's a large variety though). I just assumed Sonar would have all of them in it too. The drum samples are pretty decent too. I can't remember if what the horns are like (if there are any?).
Feb 23, 2007 02:10 pm ok, sounds likes its a good investment if i can fit it into my budget ;) thnx allot all ;)
Feb 23, 2007 02:13 pm Good strings are in Dimension...a light version of Dimension comes with P5, the full pro version absolutely rocks.
Feb 24, 2007 09:50 pm Yep, P5 is the shiznit when used on its own or ReWired into Sonar as part of a huge softsynth workstation. P5 version 2 records audio as well and has a killer bit in it called the Groove Pany which I use frequently to to arrange and set up loops, breaks and dubs. While Sonar does come with a couple good software synths they are nothing compared to what comes in P5 version 2. If you get it fire up Psyn II and just roam though some of the analog type patches. It and z3ta are my 2 most used analog type software synths. Although I have tons to choose from and several other bits from RGC Audio who is now part of Cakewalk I use them the most.
But if you have a specific question about using more with Sonar 4 let me know.
Feb 25, 2007 02:54 pm well as much as i hate 2 say it, my laptop only has 10 gigs :(
so sonar isnt that big but if im gonna put p5 on it then i thihk i might get rid of sonar, i donno, wut do u think? is it worth keepin around?
Feb 25, 2007 02:57 pm and how do i get to the stuff in p5? i cant find ne of it :( lol
Feb 25, 2007 05:00 pm Do you have version 1 or version 2 of P5? There is a big difference between them in how you get to the synths and stuff.
Feb 26, 2007 03:19 pm what are you looking to do? place a synth in a track, or actually see the synth so you can fiddle with the knobs? or both?
Feb 26, 2007 07:35 pm Yep, what coolo said.
P5 is laid out really easy to use. When it opens the defualt it will have 3 audio tracks opened along with 4 Aux busses a Master buss and a tempo track. Simply highlite a track and then on the left hit add instrument and you will be ready to go. Remember to assign your midi and audio i/o as well.
Feb 26, 2007 08:09 pm thnx guys
ya im not a keyboardist at all, i kinda wish i could play but sadly its like one of the only i cant :(
but ya, im probably just gonna use it for simple reocring stuff. but if im using both wut do u think i should use? record in sonar then put it all to gether n mixdown on p5 v2?
Feb 27, 2007 07:00 pm No, I would stick with mixing down in Sonar. Although P5 is more then capable of doing it, Sonar is just laid out more for it.
I use both Sonar 6 PE and P 5 v2 for recording and mixing depending on what type of music I am doing really. If it is more loop and synth based I tend to use P5 all the way through. If it requires some heavy audio work then I go with Sonar. If it requires both, then I ReWire P5 into Sonar.
Feb 27, 2007 08:47 pm lol ok thnx, i think ill keep p5 on my desktop and throw some stuff on a flash drive if i need it for my laptop, not worth the 3 gigs when i only have 10 lol XD
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