Is it just me...................
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Posted on Dec 25, 2002 02:04 am
guitar ed
Member Since: Nov 19, 2002
...............or does anyone else here feel like they're spending a lot less time playing their instrument, and more time tweaking, finding drum samples, setting up samplers, trying out plug-ins, replacing bass soundfonts, looking for better soundfonts, making soundfonts, scrapping the drum track, setting up the drum map, re-loading the DR-008, going to bed late, getting up late, working all day, thinking about the latest project all day, coming home tired, opening Sonar, tweaking, replacing soundfonts, etc, etc, etc.....................I'm doing so much other stuff, I can't even remember how to play the damn guitar part on the song I'm working on !!!!!!!!! It's a shame, too, cuz it was gonna be a big, big hit !! Is anyone else noticing this?? My guitar just sits there for days at a time. I don't know if this computer recording stuff is a blessing or a genuine curse from the flaming pits of hell. Oh, well, just wanted to spout off for a minute. Gotta go try out some new drum samples in the DR-008. Have a good night, and don't stay up too late............you guys with kids gotta get up early in the morning!!
Ed
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Dec 25, 2002 06:13 am Well, ed, it's 6:13 and I am up early, ready to screw around, and where to I go...to HRC...sheesh...yes I know what you mean, Noize is more of a tweaker than me tho I am learning as we are scoring a film together, I just usually like to plug in and rock out. Noize like to tweak, twist and morph stuff, which always helps the sound but I am more of a "lets rock" kinda guy...then tweak the recording...but ya, I kill lots of time messing with the recordings...it is kinda sad, but if it makes a better final product...well, it's worth it.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Dec 25, 2002 12:48 pm Guitar Ed, I know exactly as you mean as I was saying the same thing to my girlfriend the other day. I am starting to loose focus of the instrument that got me into music to begin with, but this could just be an evolution, musically. I do spend a lot of time tweaking and turning knobs and playing with faders though.
Dec 25, 2002 01:18 pm That is why there are several roles in the process, there are artists, engineers, producers, etc. The average indie musician tries to be all of them. Which sometimes helps preserve the integrity of the music, but also can cost in other ways, such as production value and such.
Unless you are Tom Schultz from Boston and take 8 years to make each album...
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Dec 25, 2002 01:56 pm Sometimes I just find myself thinking "when did the process become more important than the final product?" ya know? When you're sitting up all night working on that same song, haven't even looked at your guitar in a month, picking up little USB midi controllers to further your creation around a computer... It's kind of disheartening, but at the same time I know that this is really the way for me to go because of all the freedom I have. Problem is, do we really have too much freedom?
Dec 25, 2002 10:35 pm Personally I have no idea what the hell you're all talking about. I'm about 98% insturment and 2% tweak. Lousy punk music...
Dec 25, 2002 11:04 pm Even lousy punk music has to have some level of sonic quality! You still have to be able to hear all the individual instruments, and that requires spending time on the mix. I don't care what you're setting out to record, it has to come across like you envision it. If you want to make an entire CD of buffalo farts, you need to make sure that each fart is recorded, mixed, effected, and mastered to represent the sound of the original fart as closely as possible. I love this recording stuff, but sometimes I think it was more fun when I knew less about the process, and all I had was a *(I said a bad word and Loki washed my mouth out with soap* little 4-track recorder. I just seemed to stay more into the creative scheme of things when all these digital distractions weren't around to.........well,.......distract me. I think if I spend a little more time on the front end getting together all the sounds I want to use, I'll be better off. I need to construct a killer drum kit, and find a nice, smooth bass soundfont. Then I can record two or three songs, and come back later and do all this other stuff. Maybe that will work, but I dunno.
Ed
tonyd1970The fat one always watches us.Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002
Dec 26, 2002 07:31 am In this case I think its better for me to suck. That way i dont feel too bad about things not being perfect. The main reasons i do recordin'
1)to hear my self in stereo
2)to let (make) friends listen to me in stereo
3)to have demos ready for possible band mates
4)so possible band mates can listen to me in stereo
5)to practice recording, to become one with the music, to achieve a higher plane of enlightenment. (that could be the beer, but it still might be the music)
So as you can see, at the lower end of the making/recording spectrum there is less pressure for perfection. I figure, once i have some people to play with, ill have the drummer do the drums. I'll have the bass player play the bass, and a good singer, go get me a beer while im singing. hahahha, i still kill me.....
Im with hero, its 95%playing, and 5% tweak just because im looking to put down ideas not have a perfect musical creation.
thats my 2p on the subject, the floor is once again open for disscusion....
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Dec 26, 2002 09:49 am i dont need to do either, tony d records all my songs now for me, saves me the bother!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 27, 2002 05:26 pm In my case, it was a matter of being creative. I was educated on piano and organ. But by the age of 11 decided I wanted to be a guitarist because they were seen as the front of the band. Well that was in the 60's. As time passed, I also learned drum's and bass. But with the emergance of synth's in the 70's, I came full circle, back to keyboard's. In those day's, there were no preset sound's or patche's, you tweaked your own sound's from scratch. After learning that processor's were not only for guitar's they also became part of the keyboard arsenal. By the 80's some synth's had patche's but still needed to be fiddled with. But it was my first studio experiance that taught me one thing. If it can be twisted or slid, do so. And try it on everything, not just the vocal's or guitar.
Then along came E-MU's Emulator, that was the beggining of learning how to really create new sound's from nothing, or twisting something into something completely differant.
Moral of the story here is it never really ditracted from my music, it just made it take longer to write something, becuase I became obsesed with finding just the right sound. And in the long run, that is what got me job's doing commercial's, sound track's, and lot's of music writen for what would be considered elevator music. So it is just as important to hae original sound's and so on as it is to have original music.
Don't ever be affriad to tweak them knob's if you feel so compeled.
