Apr 02, 2006 02:44 pm Don't mean to bump, but I completely rewrote the post instead of starting a new one.
first finished project
Posted on Apr 01, 2006 07:52 pm
StinkyRyan
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Member Since: Nov 10, 2005
I recently finished my first song for my band, I know it's not really many of your guy's type of music, but if anybody could listen and give me some input it would be appreciated.
www.myspace.com/donbrasi
The song name is Impressions.
I think the word to describe it is thin, I'm not entirely sure what exactly is wrong with it. We were aiming to sound like:
www.myspace.com/sincetheflood
But it came way short. I recorded the guitar with an Audix CX-112 and an Audix i-5 about 6" away from the cab with the CX straight at the center of the cone and the i-5 right beside it angled at the middle of the side of the cone.
The drums I used an Audix D-6 about two inches away from the beater slightly angled with a blanket covering the shell to cut bleed through. I used the Audix i-5 for the snare, angle towards the drummer about half an inch away from the head. The over heads were about 6' high right infront of the kick in opposite angles, this is called XY?
The bass cab was mic'd with the D-6 around 2" from the cab dead center with the cone, also through my Sans Amp DI.
Vocals were done with the Audix CX-112, the singer stayed around 6" away from the mic.
I eq'd the kick by cutting 80, and boosting 250 and 12000. I then added some compression. The over heads were also hard panned oppositely.
The snare was compressed as well, but I didn't eq it at all.
I split the guitars 3/4 in each direction, the condensor and dynamic tracks. I eq'd them lightly, but don't remember the exacts.
I purchased Har-Bal right after we finished tracking, but I'm not sure if I am using it right I loaded up the song from the Since The Flood CD, also on their myspace as an mp3, and used them as the reference. I then tried to match the waves as smoothly as I could. That track ended up sounding really weird, I think it could have been the limiter though, the volume was going up and down sounding. So I ended up posting the wave before Har-Bal.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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Apr 02, 2006 02:44 pm Don't mean to bump, but I completely rewrote the post instead of starting a new one.
Apr 02, 2006 03:55 pm SR, its spring break many places so it will take some time to get a response. I will give your stuff a listen this afternoon and let you know.
Be patient and others will show up as well.
Noize
Apr 02, 2006 08:48 pm OK, had me a quick listen. For starters I am thinking that mic placement might be a good place to start to thicken up your sound a bit. You have a lot of bottom end to get before your sound will be like Since the Flood.
On the guitar cabinet, one mic 6" out is OK, but the other mic should be right on the edge of the speaker cone facing a little angled in toward the center. You are not capturing enough of the mainn portion of the speaker. I should ask as well what the amp set up is for the guitar. That as well could be causing the thin very mid toned sound.
If you going to mic the bass, again dont set it away from the cabinet unless you have another directly on the speaker. And the DI sound should give you the best sound really. I couldnt really herre the bass at all in that mix.
The drums as well were very thin. I think getting a handle on mic placement will be a good start. And I think you should check on how you actually have things panned. It sounded to me like the guitar was all on the right and the drums and vocal were on the left.
Apr 03, 2006 11:23 am The guitar setup is a Peavey 5150 II run to a B-52 lg cab. I'm assuming the i-5, or the dynamic mic, should be the one right up on the speaker? If so then the LD should be the one 6" straight in front of the center of the cone or should it be a little off to the side too?
As for the panning maybe I did do it wrong, I'll read up on more information on that too.
We're planning on recording as we write each new song, so I'll be sure to keep you updated if you don't mind.
I also read that recording the guitar twice on top of it self would thicken the sound up some more. Do you think that is an option to help me? I don't mean like keeping the same sound now and just doing it twice, but working on my mic placement and such and then recording it twice.
Thank you for your input though.
Apr 03, 2006 11:02 pm Only have a second here. But indeed the dynamic should be the close mic, and you can try moving the LD around a bit untill you get a fuller sound. I usually place it slightly off center of the cone as well. Although at a distance it isnt as important.
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