M-audio Octane flaw

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Member Since: Mar 07, 2006

I thought I would post this report due to the large number of people that ask this and other forums about which 8 channel pre-amps they should purchase.

I recently bought an M-audio Octane unit for recording drum tracks in my home studio. I use the adat lightpipe to connect to my Protools 6.4 le system. My mic setup consists of the following:

kick - Audix D6
snare and toms - SM57's
overheads - (2) Marshall MXL 2003's
hi hat - Rode NT-1A

I discovered almost immediately that when plugging my overhead condenser mics onto channels 7&8 with phantom power engaged, that a fairly loud buzzing and humming noise came up. The noise slowly faded away after about 10-15 min. I switched chords, outlets, ground scenarios etc. and it still happened after a cold start. The weird thing was that if I engaged the -20 db pad on channels 7&8 the buzz went away, even with the gain all the way up. M-audio sent me a 2nd unit to try to see if the unit was defective. Same results with the 2nd unit.

I took the Octane to a local high end recording studio to check it with other mics, cables and power supply. Same results with my mics (Marshall's & Rode) but when some Neumann U87's were used, no buzz. We started trying some other mics with different ohm ratings (ADK-A51's, Oktava mk012's, Shure KSM-141's). Bottom line, any mic less than 200 ohms caused channels 7&8 to buzz. I informed M-audio's tech support of this and they did their own testing of the Octane units at their factory with various mics. Sure enough, they have admitted to me that it is a design flaw.

So, if you have an M-audio octane or are looking to buy an Octane be careful about the condensers you use. Anything less than 200 ohms will more than likely cause you a very annoying buzz or a 15 min. warm up time for the noise to go away.

Hope this post helps someone. It cost me a lot of time, headaches and some $$ to ship one of my Octane units back to the factory. Worse yet, M-audio didn't even say thanks for finding the flaw or offer any thoughts as to if the problem would get worse over time. Go figure.

Van

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Mar 07, 2006 03:22 pm

Interesting, thanks for the info, since there has been a lot of chatter about that exact type of unit (8 in) lately.

Sorry it made such a hassle for ya though, that sucks.

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Mar 07, 2006 04:08 pm

I wonder what's warming up for 15 minutes for it to go away. That's kinda odd. Maybe a resistor is increasing in resistance when it warms up.

Thanks for the research. These types of things are always good to figure out.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Mar 07, 2006 09:46 pm

Welcome to HRC, and again thanx for the info.

pjk, it is the capacitors used in a condensor mic, which was sometimes refered to as a capacitor mic in the old days.

Anyway, they can take time to charge fully once the phantom juice is on. I always leave my condensors run at least half an hour before using them. Old habbit learned at an early age for me. Not sure if its really a big deal with most mics these days, but it would appear it is with this Octane unit.

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Mar 08, 2006 09:20 am

cool, good info to know for the future

Thanks.

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