vocals.don't knw what's wrong?

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giv me gear
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it's an alteration to the light grunge stuff.don't know how to do vocals.it's my first time.here's the thing:

www.homerecordingconnecti...ype=2&src=1

added a bit of voice just to see how to do it.what's going wrong

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http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Feb 10, 2009 02:37 am

geez brother, first time doing vox.

i dunno how old you are now but, the vox you wanna do, absolutley donnot come easy or quickly.

even if you were a natural, you'd be looking at a a good couple years before you got what you are looking for and im being optermistic.

im not saying you cant, or have no chance at all though. but i can tell you a few things.

If you wanna learn that style of vox there are a couple of dvds out there atm that would be a good start.

one thing i will tell you about these vox, weather or not you wanna hear it coz most people dont get this.
you need hours under your belt, a worn, angry scream is just that, you gotta thrash it with some hours. band rehearsals is by far the best way.

Imo, when your throat is thrashed from gigs or rehearsals youre on the right path to wickedness. an unused throat will never get there.
you will suck badly for ages, but a persistent vocalist is the best one.

not that ive seen any of these dvds but apparently they are supposed to be good.

Metal Method vocal power with Jim Gillete.
Zen of screaming Mellisa Cross.

there is a method of tightening of the throat and inhaling to get a scream, that i dont agree with though.
sounds gay.
and is just plain stupid.

i know i went a bit crazy with this post but, its something i know a bit about.
hope it helps.

MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Feb 10, 2009 09:16 am

Not to beat a dead horse, but if you start posting things in the proper forum, you might also get a lot more feedback. This (again) has absolutely nothing to do with mastering.

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Feb 10, 2009 09:19 am

Good catch MM, topic moved.

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Feb 11, 2009 12:25 am

I think often people don't know the definition of mastering vs mixing, so they are ignorant of what is the correct forum to post to...

giv me gear
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Feb 11, 2009 02:06 am

when i posted this thing in the mixing forum i definitely wanted to knw what was wrong with the mixing of the vocals and not the vocals as such.

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Feb 11, 2009 02:19 am

thats BS mate...you need to be more clear about what you want hey.
re read your own thread opener.

"dont know how to do vocals, its my first time"

my assesment was of your vocals regardless.
just trying to help.

honestly and quite frankly you need it.

without being mean, you cant seriously expect mixing to make "that" sound like you want it to.

i wasnt going on a rant for nothing, i see your predicament (whether you see it or not), and i was just cutting thru the crap without treading on your ego too much.

youre trying to run a marathon before you can walk.






giv me gear
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Feb 11, 2009 04:40 am

ok.sorry.

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Feb 11, 2009 05:00 am

so what you did actually mean is the "mixing" of that vocal?

i stand corrected if that's the case.

try addin reverb and touch of delay to em, to drag them into the mix a bit better.

and i'll kepp my comments to myself next time eh?.






I tune down down...
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Feb 11, 2009 10:48 am

Do you have an interface at all? Or is that just direct into you PC's sound card?

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Feb 11, 2009 10:50 am

I see in your profile you say your PC has 256 MB of RAM...as a preemptive measure, you will want to up that to at least a GB or more and more problems will be dropping up.

...just a thought...

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Feb 11, 2009 03:17 pm

While 1Gb or more of RAM is ideal, speaking from experience, I do pretty well with 512kb of RAM. Actually, I think it's 768kb... but none the less, depending on your setup, and material you are trying to mix, you may be able to get by with less than a gig.

But like db said, a gig or more is ideal.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Feb 11, 2009 04:44 pm

Quote:
I do pretty well with 512kb of RAM. Actually, I think it's 768kb.


coolo... time to move on from the IBM AT :)

but yea... I;m running 2ghz 768MB myself...

hardcore vocals are hard ...there's a couple different ways the 'thrash your voice' is generally not ideal... as you will eventually cough up blood. I prefer a 'softer' growel with lots of gain... to get it...imagine yourself being told to clean your room by your parents and say "ulgh" ...then really push it out :)







Prince CZAR-ming
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Feb 11, 2009 05:13 pm

ha, that was pretty funny. strong bad, that is.


Veni, MIDI, Vici
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Feb 11, 2009 09:03 pm

Funny, zeke!

giv me gear
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Feb 11, 2009 09:28 pm

i'm increasing the ram by 1 gb and no i do not have an interface.

I tune down down...
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Feb 12, 2009 12:07 am

Get an interface. You will get nowhere with just a sound card.

I am not a crook's head
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Feb 12, 2009 10:24 am

Yeah, an interface, a preamp, a microphone, and a pair of flat-response monitors are pretty much prerequisites to home recording.

There's no reason why you can't continue to record and hone your skills while your gear catches up with you though. But you have to temper your expectations a bit. You can still get your ideas recorded, and you can still use the gear you do have to build layers, flush out melodies and harmonies, and practice/hone your engineering and mixing skills. Above all, have fun.

Just don't jump into it thinking that you can make studio-quality recordings with an integrated audio card and a microphone.

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Feb 12, 2009 10:31 am

Tinstryde, not to let Cynic confuse you, at the end of the day an "interface" and a "sound card" are the same thing, they are a way to get the audio into digital format and into your computer. What he is trying to say is that you will only have limited success with a standard, consumer grade sound device. There are specialized devices optimized for audio recording that work FAR better.

And regarding monitors, more than perfectly flat response, you need to KNOW your monitors...if they aren't flat, that's OK as long as you know WHERE they are hot or cold, so you know how to compensate for it.

giv me gear
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Feb 12, 2009 08:17 pm

thanks. i am limited when it comes to funds. like a total 18 db "hard limiter".i'm reallyyyyyyyyyyyy low on funds.

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Feb 13, 2009 01:16 am

Quote:
coolo... time to move on from the IBM AT :)


Ha ha. That actually looks like a computer I used to play oregon trail on back in middle school...

You know what, zek, since we're on the subject, I bought my mom a new dual core machine, and it's a Linux system (Ubuntu something or other...). It's different, but it works. Who knew!

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