Motivation .. ?
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Posted on Apr 18, 2005 11:49 am
Bleak
A small pie will soon be eaten
Member Since: Aug 26, 2004
When you know you should, but just couldn’t be arsed (Bothered,worried,concerned,disturbed,- So on and so forth),
What makes it happen?
How do YOU motivate yourself?
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Apr 18, 2005 11:52 am I wish I had a way, unfortunately in the lastyear or so music writing and recording (of my own stuff, not client work) has been soooooo low on my priority list, if I ain't motivated, I don't do it.
I am spending my time too many other places.
Apr 18, 2005 11:56 am depends alot on the task....
anything between counting 1-2-3, to askin' Mary §;o), to arguing with myself (out reason the side that dosn't wanna be bothered), if it's physical labor, some quick pushups will get the blood flyin'
how 'bout breakfast!!! GO BREAKFAST!
think about how good it'd be to get it overwith.
to be frank, if you're refering to anything relating to music, smoking does it for me everytime without fail....but that's just me, i don't wanna turn this into a health thread though.
peace
wyd
Apr 18, 2005 01:35 pm Havin tracked up almost 3 songs in just over a week, I just dunno!!
Ive been gon mad for it of late...I guess I Wanna smoke some other guys oot whilst doing my own thing..some dudes who think they are top and think everyone else should bow to em...I guess I wanna top these folk.
And, I will. Thats not to be smug or smartass..thats them. I just know some new stuff Ive collabed with my mate on is better than there stuff so of late, my motivation has been to give em 2 fingers after insultng me for using a PC to make "fake" music.
EVen tho, I done the whole demo in studios thing (and got crap demos and ripped off). Still these guys still believe playin for free will get em noticed and big time...all it gets em is a rep for playing for free like fools!!!!!!
Aye - so, when its done, I'll be happy.
Coco.
Apr 18, 2005 01:37 pm I should add normally I am motivated to just hear ma stuff on CD, sounding the best I can make it.
This is just a bit of musical revenge just now...I'll give those punks "fake music" !!
P.S. The most amusing thing is they paid a fortune for a "real" demo and Ive heard far better on here - so - that shows paying a bomb for a "real" demo isnt all its cracked up to be!!
Coco.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Apr 18, 2005 03:21 pm If it's music, I just have to pick up my guitar, or start playing my keyboard, or drums. If it's something I'd rather not do, then neccessity is the main motivator. I didn't want to clean the fish tanks yesterday but when the fish are looking at ya, and you know if they could talk they'd be callin' you every name in the book, well.. neccessity calls. <G>
Dan
Apr 18, 2005 04:24 pm Ah...now, ye have a point there Dan...My fish ALSO need cleaning..better tell the wife :-p !!
hehehe
Coco.
Apr 18, 2005 04:52 pm i think you gotta clear your life out and spend some time dreaming about what ya want to create.
also, eat phenylalanine, which i hear helps your body make dopamine, which motivates you.
so yeah. my tentative prescription: take broad spectrum amino acid supplements!
lol try that.
Apr 18, 2005 04:56 pm Also, on a side note, smokin, drinkin, drugs, etc, which people often associate with "making one creative" is generally counter productive. The best way to be at your best and most motivated is by staying healthy. There is really no bigger rush than a natural phyisical interest and striving for personal success with a clear mind.
The healthy your are the better you sleep, and the more alert you are when awake, and the easier and quicker you can "wake up". While with certain drugs you can stay up for days, your mind isn't at it's best during those times, and excessive alcohol can make you sleep like a baby, but the next day is sucky...
I dunno, just some random thoughts...
eat well, exercise, take your vitamins...be at your best the most often.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 18, 2005 05:05 pm motivation ,for other activities such as cleaning and school and all that isn't that difficult to get in gear . as far as music ,I've been kinda like db , I've worked on other people stuff more and for the past 4 moths I've been in Iraq and have had writers block @#$%$!
Apr 18, 2005 07:58 pm Hey Geoff
I would think after yer time there, youd have even more material than ever no?? Maybes it'll hit ya when yer back from Iraq..
Either way, I reckon we all need a bit of a kick up the *** to do some things. I NEVER write music/record unless Im up for it or it shows. Something should be worth doing properly if yer gonna do it...so I usually stick to that and hopefully, dont go too far off.
That said, I wrote some crap in my time. Then again, so did much of the fools in teh charts just now :-p
hehe
Coco.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 18, 2005 08:26 pm I wrote a bit of stuff last time i was here but I've just had a bit of writters block were nothing sounds good to me. you can't force creativity. I think we all have times where we write "crap" , I wrote a few things that I thought were cool at the time and have gone back and went "damn, now that's a hot steamer."
Apr 18, 2005 09:21 pm The look on those little guys faces when they walk away from a good recording session..... the complaining starts afterwards.
I motivate myself by listening to commercial stuff and how bloody good it is. The only way im going to that is by practising a hell of a lot, and learning from my mistakes.
Even though im in a two bedroom apartment, away from home, at the mo', ive still got a small computer that i load all my files in, and try out all the new things i learn on a day to day basis.
Im always playing guitar now as well, writing riffs by the minute. Its good for me to think about how the structure is coming along and so forth. That helps motivate.
Plus im doing a sound engineering course :D, that helps.
Also when im down, the best way to get out of it for me is to just play/mix/master/record/play heaps of music. so yea, theres my opinion
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
Apr 18, 2005 10:12 pm You know i've never really put much thought to the whole 'Healthy Body, Healthy mind' thing before!
I might give it a shot
I've been trying that 'St Jons Wort' stuff too. to soon to tell if it works or not though.
Forty, is phenylalanine in Diet Coke?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 18, 2005 11:18 pm For me its the same as dB. I have to many other things going on to take much time for my own creations to take shape. Lots started but time is always to short and I loose track of what it was I was originally doing.
That said, I know when I get a new bit of kit. Like a new softsynth or such, that has a tendancy to make me churn out something new wehn I hear a new sound. But then it all rolls back to not enough time to finish things.
But honestly if you are into synths and new sounds. Try just macking about with differant sounds till something strikes your fancy and that may spark an idea or two.
Apr 18, 2005 11:35 pm I don't really buy into much of the St Jons Wort, amino acid, a littel of this and a little of that. it would seem to me (and I am no friggin medical professional by any means) that if one exercises regularily, and eats decently, you are getting what you need. Supplements I am sure are good, as food is no longer as pure and organic as it once was with all the growth hormones, preservatives and other **** put in to food, but still, a healthy diet and a healthy lifestyle make for a healthy body...at least that's my take...not that I am shining example of it.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 19, 2005 12:46 am I agree , but people want a pill or wonder drug to do what a little hard work and snsible eating will get you , you don't even have to by into health food , just eat balanced meals and be active, damn i sound like an after school special . as Mr Mackie says :"drugs are bad."
plus supliments and all that crap never agree with me ...not good.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 19, 2005 01:41 am I take a multi vitamin, Chondritin for my knees with no cartalidge, and vitamin C in the winter. Then I just eat sensible, and drink loads of water and tea.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 19, 2005 02:29 am and a nice health diet of beer hahahahha
Apr 19, 2005 04:01 am "Forty, is phenylalanine in Diet Coke?"
i think so. and it's in those listerine mint tabs.
i never gave a damn about nutrition. but this month's discover magazine has an article about a supplement being used to treat depression. the focus is a new nutrient pill geared toward creating 'the optimum molecular environment for the mind' (a phrase linus pauling, the famed chemist coined, and which doesnt appear in the article, but which is the clear goal of the product.) the article suggests that the limited testing done so far reveals that this supplement may be more effective than antidepressants for many people. i take that with a grain of salt: this is, after all, just a stupid company hawking some pills they whipped up. alarm bells ring: 'snake oil salesmen!'
but what caught my eye, in another book i was reading recently, was pauling's phrase. it clicked. your brain needs things, and it gets the things and make the things from the food you eat. the way we eat today is vastly different from the way we did hundreds of years ago. case in point: if you're not a big fish eater, you're probably not getting many omega 3's, which your brain definitely needs. the general figure is that we generally get 1/3 of what our ancestors did.
i was and still am skeptical in many ways of the claims in the magazine. but it suddenly hit me the other day. i do not eat well; never have. i should probably choose to eat well, or else take a supplement. so i bought a hardcore liquid multivitamin with amino acids in there too. i am particularly interested in the tryptophan ---> serotonin conversion. (serotonin--> happiness. this is the neurotransmitter prozac boosts). tryptophan is illegal in the united states due to a manufacturing accident several decades ago, but 5-HTP, the precursor, is available at the local store. given my history, i know i need to boost serotonin, but dont want to take anti-d's, so i kind of want this fact to be true. if you think about it, it *should* be. we make serotonin from the food we eat. turkey contains tryptophan, which reduces to serotonin, which reduces to melatonin, which puts you to sleep. i know i have felt that thanksgiving nap hit me hard, so i have to put some credence in the idea that choosing certain foods can affect my mood and that certain foods can affect the mind. and if im not gonna alter my eating, i'm gonna try these vitamins.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Apr 19, 2005 01:56 pm Drugs are for mugs...Stay low.
Took me forever to work out that weed destroyed my ability to hear in tune. Couldn't tune a guitar/bass for the life of me. Best left alone (for me...good luck to ya if it works for you).
By the way, now I have to clean MY fish tank....
Motivation is a tough one. Keep your ears and eyes open, and there's always something to inspire you.
I always find that once I actually sit down and focus, I'm there for hours.....The motivation just creeps in.
"Writing is easy...you just sit down at a typewriter, and open a vein."
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Apr 19, 2005 02:12 pm ditto on that weed=no-hear-ums. I did a Independence day gig back in high school, got stoned before, and played absolutely horrible. I couldn't hear if it was in tune, or what the tone sounded like. I also borrowed someone's amp for the gig, so i couldn't dial it in to make it work right. It was that night I figured out which I wanted more: music, or getting high. Now I just look at people high and think (to myself): what a waste of good brain power.
As to the motivation thing, i can't say. the last few weeks i've been quite unmotivated, what with spring, and planning our house. But when I do get going, i'm like tallchap: it comes on for quite a while and i get some good chunks of stuff done.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 19, 2005 02:26 pm Agree completely. Drugs do not enhance musical ability in any way shpae or form. They will only misslead you into thinking you are good.
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Apr 19, 2005 02:43 pm unless youre in the beatles, in which case you make sgt peppers...
Apr 19, 2005 03:34 pm i just find my creativity goes way up into places that i normaly woulnd't consider...which always leads to cool things. i hate to be "that guy" and call it a crutch, but it does it for me. not sayin' everyone should, by any means.
i find it's not unusual for creative people have strange habbits....Salvador Dali, E.A. Poe, Sid Barret, Richard Prior ect. the list can go forever
now does this mean drugs make the artist better? the answer is certianly not. i'm not gonna turn this into a pro-cannabis thread, because i don't think everyone should smoke it, and it wouldn't be very approprate for this forum (err i think). i was just answering the question at hand.
we need a red eyed smiley!!!
lol
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Apr 19, 2005 03:53 pm I guess if it works for you . . .
it shore don't work fer me.
=)
Apr 19, 2005 03:58 pm Yeah, years ago when I was in my 20's I thought it did it for me...I was very wrong when I found out what true creativity and true motivation were...then I realized that whole time I was just stoned...hearing stoned things and doing stoned things...nothing more nothing less.
It's funny, the list WYD gave, and the lists that most people give on this type of topic, yeah, often creative people, and often people that die very young, die in horrible ways, or have a completely out of control life...creative, perhaps, but by no means a good life...
Apr 19, 2005 04:09 pm i think if each could comment on their own lives, they'd say it was interesting. but who am i to speak for them.
Apr 19, 2005 04:10 pm Interesting is not necessarily good or productive.
Also, I don't think anybody ever really knows what goes thru ones mind at that dying moment as the life flashes before ones eyes...
Apr 19, 2005 04:14 pm It also fucks up your memory..from my early years I smoked a little (and I mean a little)...to the point I never bought any so ye get the drift.
That said, I did get a bit freaked when listening to the Beatles "Day In The Life" at the end where it goes all mad and Lennon utters "cranberry sauce" in a druid like evil voice..scared me shitless!! Then I learned, never smoke the stuff...and never bothered again.
I did write a couple of crap songs when smokin. They were all wacked oot stuff. I tried to do it Lennon style then realsied the man had it in him with or without drugs.
And, as for the memory thing, ye'll notice with big time drinkers, smokers or anything else, they do start to lose things, forget chords, cant speak properly - look at Ozzy!!! MAn, he cant hardly speak at all and thats straight...
It MAY work for a while dude, but in the end, its proven to rot yer heid and waste the old grey matter. Best to find creativity whilst straight as ye canny do it for ever dude.
Am NAE anti-smoking, anti-drinking prudish type - man - dae what ye like as long as ye dinny piss anyone else off - I jsut seen so many guys screwed up with just weed that its no as minimal as ye may think.
That said..each to their own.
Coco.
Apr 19, 2005 04:17 pm eh, I have no issues with smokin a little reef, hell, I did for years. What I think is stupid is the "it makes me creative" ****...it reminds me a lot of the idiots who say **** like "ya gotta learn how to drive drunk".
Apr 19, 2005 04:23 pm Aye, agreed tho I still say it surely does screw up yer memory after long term, sustained use - as I say, I have buds who cant string a sentence together even when NOT stoned for taking so mcuh! But, alas, its up to the individual...
On the Drunk driving thing, Anyone who drinks and drives deserves to be shot on the spot.
How many folk, women, kids and guys ahve been wiped out cause of ******** who thikn its cool to do it or just plain cant be arsed to get a taxi cab!
Bastards...the lowest of the low are drunk drivers. PERIOD...in fact, they should reserve a nice spot in hell for these people to be permanently tortured for eternity!
Geez...a real hot spot that one hit!!
Coco.
Apr 19, 2005 04:24 pm I dunno, I can think of a few people lower than drunk drivers, but yeah, it's stupid. It's something we have all done tho...or any of us that drink...
Yeah, it does screw up memory and motor skills and other stuff, but still, if somebody wants to smoke it in the privacy of their own home...eh, who am I to stop 'em...
Apr 19, 2005 04:26 pm Never have and never will...
I do agree with ya tho - there are others lower but they are doon there with the snakes for sure.
I just hate the bs that folk use as excuses, haivng been almost killed myself by some arsehole who thought he wouldnt bother with the taxi fare (£5) ($10) and nearly killed me! Still, a smack in the jaw made me feel so much better, then the guy being done by the police rounded it off! Sweet....
Poetic justice indeed.
Coco.
Apr 19, 2005 04:28 pm Aye - I do agree on the point of those smoking it...nae hassle. I even agree with legalisation...I just canny be doing with folk suggesting it has nae side effects. I dont mind it, done it, dont now but I dont see it as a big deal...no worse than beer (Which I love!!).
hehe.
Coco.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Apr 19, 2005 05:03 pm I don't think I'll ever become an anti-pot or a pro-pot advocate. It's just not my thing. Good luck to all those it works for. Doesn't work for me. Not pro. No anti. Not a smoker (at least not that stuff).
If it inspires you - great.
Doubt that it "motivates" though (see original thread topic!).
"Dreams pass into the reality of action. From the actions stems the dream again; and this interdependence produces the highest form of living."
Anais Nin
Not bad for a writer of erotica.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 19, 2005 08:53 pm Well, just to make a case for the side that gives it up and does realize how much better they are straight. Look at Robin Williams, ya he was funny as hell when he was all coked out. I wont argue that at all. But even he now agrees that being clean is better, he is still the outrageous lunatic he was then, only now he is in better health, doesnt worry about having a heart attack on stage. And he makes no excuses for poking fun at those who are still all doped up. My personal take, I think he is funnier now then he was back then. And I did think he was funny then.
Bobcat is another example. Funny all coked up, but he found he can still be that funny without it.
Think about how funny John Belushi might have been had he lived, Chris Farley, he was way to young and just getting started. That little helper they thought they needed ended their lives before they could really figure out who they really were.
End of Rant.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 19, 2005 08:57 pm Oh ya, I left out one example.
Keith Richards, can anyone even uderstand what comes outa his mouth. The last interview I saw of him they actually had to have subtitles as he was so utterly incoherant you could nae understand a word from his mouth.
Apr 19, 2005 09:33 pm I saw Bobcat last year, one of the funniest shows I have seen in years.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 19, 2005 10:46 pm I forgot about that. Ya, he is funnier now sober then he was all cracked out. I would love to see him live. He has been on KQ a few times and just rides the crap outa TB. I think he hate him, and just goes on to flirt with Traney.
Apr 19, 2005 10:56 pm yeah, his best line, regarding janet jacksons "wardrobe malfunction" and how upset everyone got...he said "yeah, I said to my nephew, see that girl there with her boob hanging out? Stay away from her brother"
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 19, 2005 11:00 pm I was able to catch bob a few years back and he was a riot . If you ever get the chance John Fox is a good one to see , plus a nice guy. He had the whole audiance stand up for little ol me becuase i just came back from Iraq the 1st time.
Apr 20, 2005 11:30 am i donno, maybe it's just me i guess, i love tokin' and dooin' productive stuff, i work alot more intensly and am into the task at hand completely....i've been smokin' daily for roughly 5 years now and i don't get zonked outta my mind anymore (like i used to) so i am quite able to harnes the madness and make it work for me. i know it sound's real similar to "learning how to drive drunk" but that has WAY more ramafacations then say, smokin' a bowl and cleaning the house, cutting grass ect. i don't do the whole drunk driving thing anymore, i figured i'd quit while i was ahead, and vowed never to do it again....and havn't.
but back to my point, i DO get motivated/inspired/driven after smokin', i can focus intensly on the task at hand. i'm not sayin' more or even better than without it. but i just prefer it. maybe my views will change as life goes on, i'm sure they will, and i welcome it....but until then i'ma keep tokin'. soon as i quit smokin' cigarettes (been a day and a half now) alcohol is next on my list to be 86ed. but the weed, call me addicted (psychologically) but I have zero plans on quitting anytime in the forseeable future....
as for coke/crack/meth/anything in a needle, or gets snorted....ick not my thing at all. i'm just a simple pothead through and through. loddie dottie.
peace
Apr 20, 2005 12:45 pm oh, HAPPY 4-20!!!!! 'tis a holiday for us today
Apr 20, 2005 01:23 pm It's my wife and I's 9th anniversary today :)
Oh, and WYD, don't take any of my comments as a direct shot at you, cuz they are really not intended that way...I remember thinking just like you in my 20's...it's not a shot, I just view things differently now.
Apr 20, 2005 01:45 pm oh i completely understand bro...it's all good here....i gotta feeling i'll end up thinking more like you here in a few years anyway. who knows
Apr 20, 2005 02:29 pm Ditto here WYD...I done it tae, as did dB. If we're all honest, there has been MANY folk who smoked it..as i say..nae big deal here either. Now, who was I Talking to again ;-p !! hehe.
And dB - Happy Anniversary dude...Were comin up 3 yrs in August,,man 9 yrs, its like eternity away :-)!
Cheers guys
Coco
Apr 20, 2005 03:11 pm thanks coco.
Guess how we are celebrating? Spending the night with our new friends at the gym in a Kenpo class :-)
Oh, and I am spending a truckload of money to get my wife a digital camera...a nice digital camera...jebus...I guess she has a right to an expensive hobby too...
Apr 20, 2005 03:17 pm I spent a good 15 yeras of my life stoned, wired, trippin or any combination of the above...didn't get much done, even though I thought I was...since not doing it I have accomplished more than I ever would have dreamed of...I dunno, I hear that same story from lots of people...
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Apr 20, 2005 03:36 pm Happy Aniversary to you and the wife dB!
As for drugs, never have, never will. I've just never found them neccessary to enjoy life. :)
Dan
Apr 20, 2005 05:08 pm yeah, happy aniversary to ya both!!
and yes i too hear the same story often.
can't deny the power of lotsa ppl sayin' the same thing...unless we're talkin' about "good music" haha
peace all
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 20, 2005 05:30 pm Happy Aniversary Dan , and happy 420 WYD . today is one of my best friends B day, lets just say in the past it seemed everyone was celibrating his B day.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 20, 2005 05:34 pm WYD , I'm wondering , wouldn't it be harder to quit smoking cigs, if you kept smoking weed. I would find anything that you have to smoke would bring you back to the ol cancer sticks. You also know I'm a smoker and trying to quit too. I know people who toke up but don't smoke cigs, but I've not seen too many that do both that if they quit one they had to quit everything.
Apr 20, 2005 06:15 pm accually it's quite the opposite for me...i CANNOT somke a cig after hittin' my green...it tastes like utter garbage and usually makes me hack and gag in a most unpleasant way. most of my friends smoke both, and just hafta have a cig right after....i dont' see how they do it. TOO MUCH SMOKE. my body just rejects it. now only if it were that way with beer!! lol i'll burn a pack in 6 hours if i'm drinkin' alot.
Apr 20, 2005 06:22 pm cigs taste and smell like crap anyway...regardless of time and place.
Apr 20, 2005 06:25 pm true, the more i try to quit, the more i realize that i really don't "like the flavor" at all....even my dogs know to avoid the damn things, they instinctavly turn away and go find some dead animal to roll in.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 20, 2005 08:22 pm yeah I could never smoke cigs after a bowl. but it's been a wee bit of time since i've done that. I kinda have to have random UA's and such and believe it or not week is illegal hmmm wierd .
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 20, 2005 11:44 pm Happy Aniversary dB. Wish the wife one from me as well.
Better late then never they say.
