Nov 17, 2003 02:51 pm Capturing some video for a co-worker, building a web site for the AOIRA and hopefully finishing final mixdown for a couple tunes of mine.
Shootin' the breeze
Posted on Nov 17, 2003 02:45 pm
TheTincanbug
sloppy dice, drinks twice
Member Since: Aug 05, 2003
So, what's everybody working on in their studios this week? Got any cool projects going on?
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Nov 17, 2003 02:51 pm Capturing some video for a co-worker, building a web site for the AOIRA and hopefully finishing final mixdown for a couple tunes of mine.
Nov 17, 2003 03:29 pm i just wrapped up some voiceover work for some animation. it's for a website launch that will coincide with the release of the guy's first novel. he's pretty excited since he now has a publisher... like the author's equivalent to getting signed.
Need to finish tracking the vocals for a project with 14 tracks... not a bad payday. they've spent a lot of time here to say the least.
I should be finishing up the scratch tracks for my band then we'll start tracking drums to start a full length release that should be done in feb 04...
i have a research paper to write and 2 exams this week too.
... other than that, Not much going on here! haha
Nov 17, 2003 06:03 pm no projects right now. i'm just reading the new rikky rooksby book "songwriting sourcebook" which is a fat book and cd combo all about how chords work in songwriting. i've only skimmmed it so far and have already learned two great new chords to fit into my repertoire: the minor iv and the flat vi major. highly unusual both, (they appear often in radiohead and coldplay songs, though, i notice now) and although experimentation should have led me to them, i don't know if i've ever used them before. i think it's giving me more of a sense of how there are all sorts of paths that lead outside of standard harmonic theory and back into it again. this'd be an excellent book for anyone who wants to learn more about 'useful' theory for songwriting. not any bs, practical, and not complicated at all. it was just released and is not widely available yet--i had to special order it at my local barnes & noble.
Nov 17, 2003 06:44 pm Met a fellow bass player a few months ago at the shop and offered to record his first demo if and when he got a group together. Well...he did. Heavy metal. Not necesaraly my cup of tea, but they are well rehearsed and put out a great sound. In fact a couple of songs I actually have to admit to liking. They pushed the down beat to two and four and tip a little for a bit of a swing feel and it melds very nicely. Their rehersal room was far to small to record (5 string bass...B string mega wave) so I am draging them to the shop. A true garage band! Complete with hoists, bender, mig welder. Should make some pretty bomb promo photos. They where even given a stack of "cubie" wall dividers which will work well for isolation. We start tomorrow night and will work Tuesday and Thursday nights until we have a good album. I will try to talk them into letting me post one when we are done. Should be great fun! Maybe I'll even do a video for promo purposes.....depends on time.
Nov 17, 2003 07:17 pm walt, are you saying that the b-wave from the bass was too large to fit in the room they used? can you explain that? what does this mean exactly?
sorry, just am curious.
Nov 17, 2003 07:21 pm I'm recording and mixing a local rock band right now. My first payed engineering gig :) Exciting... Will be working all through Christmas break and will probably do the mastering too, if they like me enough. It's quite cool getting payed to do what you would really do for free just for the fun of it... The only thing I'll use the money for is expanding my studio, anyways! Doing my job just so I can keep doing my job since I like it so much-- Now that's a situation I'd like to be in! Perhaps the day will come.
Nov 17, 2003 07:27 pm do you guys just offer your services to local bands? show the stuff you've done and say 'how about letting me have a shot at recording you?'
congrats, thats great
Nov 17, 2003 07:50 pm Fortymile,
The "B string wavelength". You got it! That B string open is a real peddal tone. Down there! The lower the frequency, the longer the wavelength. I didn't do the math, but It has to be 30 foot or better. Take a small room such as they have 10 foot square and the wave can never fully develop without folding back on itself per reflection off a wall. Result: Rumble bottom bass. No distinction. Mud! I chattered at length with the bassist and he developes his sound from outside his cab i.e. must use a mic to get "his" sound. Direct in would be a process of him trying to recreate "his" sound without his speaker cab. Not something I want to tackle.
Relitive to this recording session(s); This time I offered to do the recording for cost of materials. Heat, electric, yada yada. I looked at it as win / win as I have never done a heavy metal band and there are some things I foresee struggling with. Free school for me, free demo for them. I did let them know that if things spingboard from here that prior to an ablum for sale we would have to negotiate a percentage fee. I did that to define the scope of what I was offering as much as paving the path for futures. For me as this is secondary or tersherary income (I know worlds worst speller) I don't sweat the small stuff. I always go visit them on their terf once and listen to what they want prior to making an offer however. If the whole thing looks like a pain, or if there is immediate profit to be made from the endevor, I will set a fee. For these guys it is pre-giging promo work. So again, not a big thing.
Nov 17, 2003 07:53 pm Well, for me, the lead guy in this band I'm recording went to my high school a few years back and was friends with my older brother. This guy was always known as the best guitarist in the school, and he is quite the incredible guitarist. Very talented. So after a few years without a band he decided to put something together again and heard some of my work through another friend of his who I recorded an acoustic album for. I guess he recommended me. I find that people will go looking for you. There are a lot of people who would like to record, but can't afford to go into a studio, or are sick of dealing with people who are hard to get along with. That's basically how it was with this guy. He didn't want to pay tons of money at a studio (like he's done before) and end up with no input on the final product. He'd rather work with someone like me, and have more input and flexibility throughout the project.
Nov 17, 2003 08:10 pm At my studio right now there is a christian grindcore band called "...And we danced" in the final stages of the mixing process. For what they are labeling themselves as.... this music is some of the best i have heard coming from 18 year old limbs and mouth(s). If i was only good at this computer stuff and could learn how to make a site for my studio id be able to show you guys alot of the cool stuff im working on here. but i guess some humans arent so good at that stuff
Nov 17, 2003 08:29 pm That's why a lot of folks hire people to make websites for them, it's not as expensive as most people think...
Nov 17, 2003 11:22 pm Having just finished up one, I'm just trying to decide which of 3 songs I'll do next.
decisions, decisions...
Dan
Nov 18, 2003 07:43 am Staying home today, not feeling well...
Currently the only thing solid that I'm working on is this drum thing I've been doing. Since I figured out how to setup my hand drums in the studio, I've been playing with those when I can. I'm not sure how this is going to be yet, I'm just kind of playing at the moment; I may either just finish the thing off as a drum jam, or lay down the bass track I've been hearing along with it.
I had kind of a musical epiphany this past weekend. I was flipping through fm radio stations when I stopped at npr and they had the most amazing worldbeat musician on there, Gilberto Gil. I'd never heard of him before. Listening to about 15 minutes of this guy's group playing incredible music live with only a few instruments made me think that I want to start writing music that's maybe not so layered and lush, focusing more on individual instruments and performance instead of the "tapestry of sound" concept I've been chasing for a few months. I said to myself, "self, you've been using tons of tracks just because you can, now how few can you use and still write great music?" (or something like that)
So I guess that's the kind of thing I'll work at for a while. Right now it's taking the form of a drum track, I don't know where it's going for sure. Fun, though. :)
Nov 18, 2003 11:35 am It's been hectic for me. I know I'm not on often but I'll share my projects anyway. I went on local tv to perform two songs with my singer. It went alright, she was a bit nervous (it was her first time performing for an audience). Other than that, well I'm moving to Montreal this week. Hopefully once I'm settled down I'll be able to work more on recording projects. I have a few things in mind, like multitracking guitar to make some soundscapes. I also wrote my first song where I do some singing. I'm not sure about my voice though. I'll post it here maybe when I get it a bit more poslished. Other than that well I have a CD coming out of my instrumental stuff. I did all the recording and mastering by myself and thanks to all the advice I got here, it sounds pretty decent :-)
Nov 18, 2003 01:23 pm OK, well, the song track I mentioned is now done, so I guess I have no project at the moment. :) sigh...
Nov 18, 2003 03:56 pm Hey- dB... What's with the "Since: _____" under all the member names? Does that show when everybody signed up? I know that you've been here a lot longer than April 2002 ;)
I thought I was here before October 2002 as well, but I could be wrong. I feel like I've been going here all my life... I guess it might be true that I didn't sign up until October, but I know I was lurking around since summer and even before :) Gee... I thought it was 2001... I guess I haven't been doing this as long as I thought.
Nov 18, 2003 05:49 pm It's the date of everyone's first post on THIS version of the website, which was launched...guess when...April 2002. From now on everyone that signs up will have the date that they signed up. HRC has been around since sometime in '97 or '98, but this forum started in April of 2002, which will be the LAST forum and user database ever used as long as HRC exists.
I didn't have dates of everyone's joining, so I did the next best thing and got the date of their first forum posting, figuring that was pretty close to their joining date...getting all that and updating the database kinda dogged the server out for a coupleminutes, but it's done now...
Nov 19, 2003 08:19 pm well, saturday i have the band coming to the studio for practice, im considering setting a room mic up and record it live. I'll probably cut that up and post it online, its been awhile since ive uploaded a song. The music has taken a big turn, if you heard our early spacey floyd type sound, we still kinda have that feel, but we are more towards the bluesy/jam and classic rock cover style now, we have a REAL singer and a full time drummer. We dont have a bass player, but the keyboard plays the basslines for now, but chances are my brother will show up and play a little bass on saturday.
While im thinking about it, should i use the condenser for a room mic, or use a dynamic?
Nov 19, 2003 11:01 pm And for me, Im taking a little break from the final mix from a metal band out of Auckland New Zealand. Pretty bottom heavy so my big ol ears got tired after 3 days of 3 hour shots at it. But I get a $500.00 bonus for having it done a week ahead of schedule. So Thuursday and Friday night will be the long winded final and then I upload the sucker and hope their happy. Then its time to finish the new studio box and get Sonar 3 up and running on it with P5 and time for me to work on colab tunes and my own, I hope anyway.
Nov 19, 2003 11:15 pm Well Noise, I hope you are having better luck with your heavy metal than I am. I've got the drums down except I am not too happy the the kick yet. The bass is way too distorted to get a good track but I don't think I can convince the bassist of that. Same with the guitar. And the vocalist.....EEEEE-GAD!! Not sure what I will do with him. Maybe stick him in a box. "Get in the box"...."I don't like the box".."In the box!"...... I am getting a wall of sound. By the way, thanks for the vintage warmer thing! Definately helps a lot on the guitar! Smooths out the ragid solid state distortion he is using. Now if I can get him to buy a couple of real cords and get rid of the 60hz buzz in his rig. Good Grief!
Nov 19, 2003 11:55 pm Yup, the last band that was in here were looking for that wall of sound. I put 2 condensors and 2 dynamics on their guitar cabs and went to 4 seperate tracks. They loved it, I hated it. And their drummer was awe inspiring, but his kit was about the level of one of those $99.00 beginner sets. I ended up replacing the kick with my onw and the snare got the boot as well. The bass guitar was very easy to use as was the main rythm guitarists tracks. As for the lousy vocalist you have, try using the bathroom with some towels haning around. Nice reverb and it will make him hear his own voice clearer.
As for the Vintage Warmer, ya its becoming my plug of choice, havent opened Magneto for months.
And its nice to see you back here, I for one missed your smiling face. :-)
Nov 20, 2003 12:35 pm Always good to drop by! Wish I had more time to drop by more often. Maybe I'll do that. Suff him in the John. I like that.
Nov 20, 2003 10:00 pm Yes, honestly this is the longest stretch of days I have been able to sit down and read posts in the last two months.
Nov 21, 2003 08:19 am Sounds all too familiar, Mr. Noise. Odd how we parallel paths.
I think I got my little rock group down last night. Picked up a few more cubie dividers and tie wraped the ends together to make portable sound booths. Got the musicians together (amps in the booths) so they could hear each other with some semblance of ballance and bing bang boom... like a machine! Had a heck of a time with the volume they where developing, but by George Me thinks me got it!
Nov 22, 2003 08:53 pm Ya, thats what I like about this house. I can stick people in differant rooms so there is more control over the sound. For Svengahli teh 2 guitar players and the bass player sat in here with me and just listened live through the moniters with their amps isolated in other parts of the house, and the drummer was the only one not in the room. It makes for a a little more interaction between the badn but keeps the audio undr control.
Nov 23, 2003 02:00 am That would be a sweet set up! Sandy would have to take a trip however for me to suquester other rooms besides the dog house. I gotta say however, I am really geeked about the cubie divider thing. Did a little accustic guitar recording to layer into one song and was able to really control things by moving a few dividers around. I do wish the shop had a floating floor however. Got some traffic vibration via the concrete that I could not get rid of. I am definately going to monitor the local colleges for when they reorg as they often do and pick up some used dividers for mineself.
Nov 23, 2003 08:22 am im trying to make the rockingest acoustic guitar song ever to liven up my colection of mid paced tunes. harder than it sounds...
Nov 23, 2003 05:54 pm Hey forty, I guess I must have missed you post awhil back in this thread. It appears no one really touched on what you were asking so Ill start here.
Yes, I offer to local bands or artists but hadnt doen that for the longest time. I may start doing it a bit more again now. Most of my work comes from word of mouth. And to tell the truth, not a whole lot from local artists. I work mostly now via the internet, (word of caution, dont try this unless you have a very fast connection and lots of bandwidth to spare) files are transfered back and forth online. I do alot of sound design work, with bands and artists all over the world as well as video game designers and soem film and commercial stuff. But most of the work I do involves mixxing and sometimes colaborating to finish a project. I also do arranging for someone who might have the basics of what they want down, but just cant take it that last step.
I should use the website I have out there for more business, but as it is time hasnt been kind to me this past year so the website is sitting stagnent. But that should change this winter, and I assume I will get busier here then.
Nov 24, 2003 06:36 am OOps, Me sorry too Forty!
My approach is a little different. However it does fit my situation. I am involved in too much other business to do recording as a main-stay. My results are getting close to pro, but not yet consistant enough to be considered pro. So, I am looking at it as part of my recording education. I don't have the time to commit to college classes, so I am offering select bands demo CD's for "cost of materials". I find a band that is well rehearsed and offer them the service. I get another demo for my portfolio, they get a demo CD, we all spend little beyond time. For me if the whole thing goes somewhere fine, if not, fine. Beyond that, I still develop skills that I can use for marketing my other businesses via multi-media. It all fits....for me.
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