Its Time To Try Some Audio Recording Help

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Member Since: Sep 22, 2002

Well i picked up a "Ridge Farms Gas Cooker" the other day at a reasonable price secondhand and its time to have ago at recording some audio. First of all the connections, i'm going from the Ridge Farms line out sockets straight into to my 2496 card and i have the audio outs from 2496 going to a power amp and my bose monitors. Have Sonar 2.2 running.I haven't tried any of this yet so i'm starting the audio bit from basics but i've pretty well got the midi thing sorted.
I want to record acoustic guitar from the acoustic pickups i have fitted to the guitar, one pickup is a Sunrise soundhole magnetic and the other is a 3 head k.k western i've superglued under the bridge plate. I take a lead from each pickup into each channel of the cooker, so i guess i'll be recording one pickup onto one track and the other pickup onto another track.
Will i be able to monitor my guitar through phones plugged into my main amp with the Bose speakers muted?
When i have 2 identical guitar tracks recorded each with a different pickup can i mix them and pan them in Sonar, and to make a stereo field do i have to put a delay on one track in sonar.
Do i record all the tracks dry then add reverb later?
Just a rew questions, theres no doubt more to follow when i get the "Ridge Farms Gas Boiler"
This question almost turned into a book!
Vikki(u.k)

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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Sep 23, 2003 06:47 pm

whats a ridge farms gas cooker? is that a joke that i missed?

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 23, 2003 07:00 pm

sounds like something you'd take camping...

Bane of All Existence
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Since: Mar 27, 2003


Sep 23, 2003 07:32 pm

simple search:
search.yahoo.com/search?p...8&fr=fp-top

stereo tube DIs. makes sense given the context.

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Since: Dec 30, 2002


Sep 23, 2003 08:12 pm

Hehehheheeh

I wish you had said that from the outset, I think we all got a little confused there :D

Okay, in regards...

"Will i be able to monitor my guitar through phones plugged into my main amp with the Bose speakers muted?"

Yes, presuming your poweramp has a headphone out, if not, you will need to invest in some form of headphone amp. Use a good closed pair of headphones to reduce bleed, but it shouldn't be a problem at all.


When i have 2 identical guitar tracks recorded each with a different pickup can i mix them and pan them in Sonar, and to make a stereo field do i have to put a delay on one track in sonar.

Yeah, you will get the output from the two pickups on 2 seperate tracks. You shouldn't have to delay on of the tracks, if things don't sound right (eg: the sound sounds "weak or thin") then you shouold try "inversing the phase", this has been covered here on HRC before, you will need either a phase inverter or a plugin which can achieve the same goal.


Do i record all the tracks dry then add reverb later?

I would, it gives you more felxibility later when mixing down, remmber, you can always run the recorded signals out of the soundcard, into Outboard FX, and then back into the PC again when mixing down.

You are going about things the correct way, I look forward to hearing your results, and actually seeing what a "Ridge Farms Gas Boiler" looks like :D

Regards
jues.


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Since: Sep 22, 2002


Sep 24, 2003 01:30 am

Oooops sorry
Heres the link to Ridge Farm, this is what they look like! Farmswww.ridgefarmstudio.com/indust/cproduct.htm
Vikki(u.k)

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Since: Sep 22, 2002


Sep 24, 2003 02:26 pm

Hey
It cooks! So now to compression, i take it compression allows you to squeeze the peaks and allow you to get maximum amount of audio onto the recording.Would you use comp on acoustic guitar or only vocals?
Vikki

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Sep 24, 2003 02:44 pm

Quote:
i take it compression allows you to squeeze the peaks and allow you to get maximum amount of audio onto the recording


exactly. it will help you control the dynamics of vox, guitars, bass, drums, and nearly any other signal you want to clamp down on.

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Since: Sep 22, 2002


Sep 25, 2003 02:21 pm

Hey
What do you guys suggest for reverb for acoustic guitar and vocals, something with a bit of quality? I guess i'm looking for that sort of sound you get when there is reverb but it doesn't sound like reverb sort of an ambience. Would it be one of the Lexicon pcm70 style thing or tc electronics. I've got a quadraverb but i don't think its quite got lt?
Thanks for you help once again
Vikki(u.k)

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 25, 2003 02:40 pm

The most recent issue of Music Tech Magazine has a GREAT article about recording acoustic guitars. It's a good read, I recommend you pick it up.

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Since: Sep 22, 2002


Sep 25, 2003 04:46 pm

Thanks dB, i'll see if i can find a copy tomorrow.
Vikki

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Sep 29, 2003 11:52 am

and db's in it, i notice...

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 29, 2003 12:28 pm

Nah, I was in it a couple of issues ago :-) Thats the second magazine I have made the pages of :-)

...bringing sexy back
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Sep 29, 2003 12:53 pm

youre in the one with the acoustic tutorial too - youre promoting har-bal in the letters page...check it out!

vikki, whsmiths is pretty much the only place i've found music tech...so they're well worth a visit if youve got one near you...

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Sep 29, 2003 12:55 pm

here it is, page 116 of octobers edition - bottom right corner...

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 29, 2003 01:13 pm

I am? Whoa, I'll have to check that out, tho letter to the editor don't count as being "in the magazine" :-). I was in a Hungarian edition of PC World a couple years back too :-)

Thanks for the info flame, I didn't know that email made it in there, I was even intending it too...

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Sep 30, 2003 06:28 am

har bal'll be pleased at the free publicity though!

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 30, 2003 06:55 am

Ya, I gotta write them and tell them about it.

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