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Posted on Mar 29, 2008 09:13 am
dbmasters
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My wife and I have been trying this new Acai Berry based drink for a few weeks...Acai Berry is the new health craze, pimped by Oprah, Rachel Ray and such...
Since taking it, my knees have stopped hurting, my wife's arthritic hands (she inherited her moms hands I fear) have stopped aching and feel the best they have in years...I sleep better, wake up better, my wrists don't hurt from this carpal tunnel crap any more...very, very impressive...and the product is really just beginning...on top of the health benefits, there is a very unusual MLM type business thing behind it that is not even in some areas yet, theirs opportunity...my neighbor is making a lot of money too...but the product kicks butt, quite impressive.
Useful/interesting links:
news.ufl.edu/2006/01/12/berries/
www.oprah.com/presents/20...life_acai.jhtml
www.my-acai.com/rachael-r...a-vie-drink.php
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A7a%C3%AD
If this interests anyone, contact me, I am floored by the results, seriously.
I am getting it in Noize's hands next, cuz he has the worst knees on the planet...gotta have him try it.
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zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
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Mar 29, 2008 10:03 am just be careful with the stuff... it's dealing with 'superoxides' seems risky.
superoxides are 02- and are quite toxic... but they are used by the immune system to kill microbes... so while greatly reducing toxicity... you are reducing natural protection to infection.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chr...omatous_disease
Mar 29, 2008 11:14 am Well don't drink a gallon a day then...
This has had the best impact on my overall health of anything I have ever taken...my joints aren't aching, my blood pressure is down, I am sleeping better, waking better....
The blend of this drink has a higher ORAC score (measure of antioxidants) than any other natural fruit or mix on the planet...two shots a day (as in two ounce shots) plus the blend with glucosamine and fatty acids for joint health (which I have noticed personally), in liquid form so your body can actually use it, unlike pills which 50% of is generally just **** out and not used.
It's friggin incredible.
Mar 29, 2008 03:35 pm Yep, Acai is in it...
and yeah, she is kinda purty
Mar 29, 2008 05:57 pm i stumbled onto this stuff without knowing anything about it. i drink the glaceau 'vitamin water' brand acai-blueberry-pomegranite drink. i drink it because it's completely delicious. it's the one flavor of that drink that jumps out at me as being extremely refreshing (the other one is dragonfruit).
it's just very tasty. the vitamin water stuff is very weakly flavored. very much like water with just a hint of flavor. so i started drinking it because it was good but it also seems to give me this feeling of total refreshment that i can't explain. i notice no relief of any symptoms (because i don't seem to have any) but i seem to feel energized and happy after drinking these things. i have cravings for them late at night and often go specifically to buy a few.
Mar 29, 2008 05:58 pm oh, db, what is the name of the juice you are drinking? i would try it. i want to try the juice in a more concentrated form.
the vitamin water probably doesn't have much acai in it (but try it if you see it, i swear it's great).
Mar 29, 2008 08:15 pm Mona Vie. It's friggin incredible, I can't believe the positive impact it's had on my overall good mojo.
You won't find it in stores, but I can get some shipped to ya...we'd have to take that offline, it's about $2 a day per person...
Mar 29, 2008 08:35 pm i heard whole foods sold acai juice? i'm going to check now. i can't afford shipping right now
Mar 29, 2008 08:49 pm Well, it's not JUST Acai...Acai is the main ingredient but there are 18 other fruits in there with different properties, Wolfberry is one I know off the top of my head. It's a blend with Acai as the main deal...but hey, if you find it, great, health is health, regardless of where you get it.
If you can't find Mona Vie in particular...maybe your market is as yet untapped...which brings up another possibility ;-)
Mar 29, 2008 11:15 pm lol i just went to whole foods. they have pure acai juice for twenty four bucks per bottle!
damn. so i will never have it. back to vitamin water for me. although los angeles is health-nuts. someplace here surely carries mona vie. no distributor info on the website though.
Mar 30, 2008 08:21 am that's cheaper than Mona Vie, and no, a store won't carry it, it's not allowed,it's only sold via private distributors like myself.
It is expensive, about $2 a day, but it also allows you to throw away virtually any other vitamin supplement you take...
Mar 30, 2008 12:52 pm One thing you should note, forty, is that any decent Acai formula you don't drink a glass of it like you do other juice, soda or beer or whatever...it's a small shot once or twice a day...so while it sounds expensive, one bottle should last a person two weeks...or thereabouts.
it should also be noted the relative health of Acai depends a great deal on it's processing, if they wait over 24 hours to freeze dry, it looses a lot of it's antioxidant power.
Also, all Acai will get more expensive shortly, Mona Vie has recent purchased the Acai harvest for the next three years, so anyone that buys it will have to get it through them.
Mar 30, 2008 08:01 pm As it turns out another berry the hottie mentioned "Goji Berry" is in Mona Vie as well, it's called "Wolfberry" also.
Hows about that...I bought some Goji Berry's today, dried ones, gonna make a nice little snackin' food while at work.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Mar 30, 2008 08:46 pm Yep, just picked up 2 bottles from dB this after noon and will be slamming my first shot in about 20 minutes.
For me if it works it will replace 5000 mg's of Glucosamine Chondriton per day which insurance will not cover. That cost alone is about $95.00 per month for the good stuff. Plus the Cortisone shots every 3 weeks which are covered by insurance but still $10.00 apiece. Plus the Cholesteral meds and other supliments I take all add up.
I am hoping this will work, as even with all the above I don't sleep well from the throbing pain at night most times.
And just so ya all know, I suffer from De generative Rheumatoid Arthritis. From the knees on down it is made worse from having no cartalidge in my knees anymore.
I can't wait to see the effects of this stuff. I'm friggin excited.
Mar 30, 2008 09:04 pm I'm excited too, after you left Diane looked at me and said "man, I hope it helps Paul, that sounds like a crappy way to go to sleep every night".
Can't wait to hear the results in the next week or so.
Oh, and the hottie I know that used to work at McHughs...well, I see she is at Buffalo Tap now...so we need to change our drinkin place :-)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Mar 30, 2008 10:20 pm Oh well, Buffalo Tap isn't that bad. A little on the seedy/sleazy side but that was were I grew up. On the seedy side.
Ya, swilled that first shot and that is good tasting stuff if ya ask me. I could drink a glass full of something that taste like that. I like the natural juices so that was easy to drink indeed.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
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Mar 31, 2008 12:48 am did you say you were on cortisone shots Noize?
thats naty stuff, hope the drink works out for ya.
Just as a matter of interest if you have too much antioxidants its makes you real tired, drains your energy.
only just found that out a month ago, had on idea.
Mar 31, 2008 08:50 am It's just like anything else...too much of any good thing will cause problems...I personally have had nothing but positive experiences so far in the results, as has my wife...and we are praying noize does too...
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
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Mar 31, 2008 12:53 pm I drink a lot of 'health smoothies' type things (try one instead of lunch, you feel so much better all afternoon than if you've had a plateful of beef and bread). One of the smoothie stores around here (hey, it's SoCal) has a lot of Acai drinks. Personally I don't dig the taste.
Mar 31, 2008 06:12 pm the goji berry juiuces are available at whole foods. let me know how that tastes, i can try that one right away.
good point about the shots. the pure extract i saw at whole foods costs exactly as much as the liquid multivitamin i now take. at GNC, a month's worth of that stuff is 25 bucks.
Mar 31, 2008 06:24 pm Yeah, I have taken that GNC stuff too, still have some, I hate the taste...
The Goji is good, just the dried berries are a nice little work nibbly snack...I am going to go try my green tea right now...
::EDIT::
That Goji Berry did add a nice bit of flavor to my green tea...interesting. Not sure how healthy it is after a brew cycle, but it tastes OK.
Mar 31, 2008 07:30 pm the GNC vitamins i use, i have used two kinds. one sucks. that kind looks like green mud. but recently i picked up the kind that's packaged in a GNC label. a kind of a tan bottle. THAT stuff is delicious, i think. strong but clean fruit flavor, and it's a thin orange liquid, not a thick sludge.
Mar 31, 2008 07:41 pm My GNC stuff is a brown/drab gold bottle GNC "Ultra Something"...it's not a horrible taste, but I wouldn't call it clean fruit taste...it's downable with water or O.J.
I'll still drink Mona Vie over it in a heartbeat...I wish it was cheaper (or I was richer) so I could drink it like grea tea or something in full glasses...yummy, yummy...
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
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Mar 31, 2008 10:18 pm ahh geen tea is real good in my experience, same with da goji berries(dried)
funny tasting but not too bad. they dint last that long though, had to chuck em.
Hey dB did ya check out the magnesium Chelate?
took a while for me, but it works in the long run. i was pretty deficient though, apparently alot are.
another awsome one is the ol protien shake once a day, that really does wonders, keeps me ultra focused mentally too.
Apr 01, 2008 02:32 am liquid ultra mega. that's what i use. i like the taste. by clean i just meant that hyperfruit is the only taste to me.
Apr 01, 2008 08:51 am I checked this morning, that is the same stuff I am drinking...I don't like the taste much, but it's doable, far better than the colon cleanser/pipe cleaner I do every couple of months, thats for sure...my kids call that "dad's mud drink" :-D
"magnesium Chelate"...hmmmm, never heard of it...off to Google.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 01, 2008 09:36 pm Ya, I will go for a quick smoothy at lunch at least a couple times a week. I get the loaded healthy one cause the lady is kinda hot and it takes longer for her to make it.
Green tea, been doing that for years here. The boyz dig it as well. We're gonna try and mkae some green sun tea this summer, adding the Goji berry sounds like a treat.
But ya, I could easily drink the whole bottle down of the Mona Vie. I think I might try mixing it with a little Sprite or Ginger Ale to make it last a little longer. Tasty damn stuff.
And ya, the cortisone is really fun stuff. Funny thing is if he misses I could friggin hemorrhage and then really be in deep Kha Kha. But the temporary relief is pretty decent but short lived. I can only get one dose every 10 weeks as well so its a real pain when it gets near the end. Hopefully the Mona Vie will make a huge difference, I'm really hoping it does as my next step is even more intense then the cortisone. Its called Synvisc and you do a 6 shot deal over 2 weeks, then its down to one injection every 3 months, but its still a huge shot like the cortisone.
Apr 05, 2008 08:00 am i founnd a new health drink called beerr
Apr 06, 2008 01:30 pm Hey, I just am trying Quinoa (Keen-Waa), a rice-type grain replacement that is protein packet and gluten free.
I boiled it along with a bowl full of mixed veggies...pretty good stuff, this might become a regular part of my diet as well...Mona Vie, Goji dried berries for work stackin and this Quinoa stuff for flour and rice replacement in meals...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 06, 2008 06:55 pm Where did you get the dried Goji berries at? I"m heading to Nature Valley tomorrow for some yogurt and will look there unless the place you went is closer.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Apr 06, 2008 08:21 pm Sorry if somebody has already asked this but...does it taste good?
My moms got scoliosis in her back...unnoticeable except for her complaining...I wonder if this stuff would help. She's tried therapy, chiropractic, and going to the doctor but none of it has worked so maybe it's about time she tries some alternative medicine.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 06, 2008 08:47 pm Yep!
It tastes great. I would love to find a regular juice in the store that tasted like this does. I'd be drinking a ton of it.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Apr 06, 2008 08:54 pm Well I hope I can convince her to give it a try. Only problem is she isn't into health-nut stuff, the price will scare her, and my dad thinks that this stuff will hurt your immune system. I personally would love to try this stuff.
Is there any evidence or possibility this stuff has negative effects on people underage? (I'm 15...but shhhh...you're not supposed to know that)
Apr 06, 2008 09:20 pm I know a few kids that are drinking it.
How could this possibly HURT your immune system? I don't see the logic in that at all. It's essentially a mix of the 19 healthiest fruits on earth mixed into a drink.
1 ounce is equal to 3 helpings of fruits (nutritional value-wise)
news.ufl.edu/2006/01/12/berries/ is an interesting study for reading...
Hardly anyone gets their daily fruit and vegetable amounts any more...this makes it easy and brings with it a TONS of good stuff...I can't believe what I am feeling, my wife, what Noize has told me, a dude next door with hip problems, his friends with fibromalgia (spelling?)
I can see people not buying the whole homeapathy type thing, or natural medicine or whatever, but this is just simple good health...and when medicne has failed...well, what are you to do?
People in the regions these fruits come from live a hell of a lot longer than us in industrialized nations, so, well...I'm just sayin...
The cost does seem a bit much, but break it down, Noize and I are taking about $4 a day in drinks, for me, I cut out a couple sodas and that covers half of it right there...and helps me be healthier by not drinking it too. :-)
Noize, yeah, it's at Valley Natural Foods...11.99 a pound.
RandalMcFloyd, hit me up thru the "contact us" link if she wants to take the plunge, in some areas it's hard to find if the marketing network hasn't reached there yet, if it hasn't, and it helps her, you guys may have a profitable venture afoot.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 06, 2008 09:37 pm I said Nature Valley didn't I. You can tell I shop at Quick Trip too much.
But ya, I've only been doing it a week so far and other then one night I've actually been able to sleep a bit more comfortably without the intense cramps in my knees and ankles. The pain I get is more like that of gout if anyone is familiar with that.
I'm pretty damn good at blocking pain mentally but the arthritis pain is extremely intense and has on more then one occasion almost brought me to tears at night. I'm a week past due on my cortisone injections and willing to give this stuff a real try out. If within the next week I can feel a huge difference without the cortisone then I am preaching the benefits of this stuff to the world. Since even the cortisone is only a minor and temporary relief.
Apr 06, 2008 10:02 pm db, how do you find customers? i actually need a new venture right now. isn't it kind of like mlm, tho? in some way?
there are ways too much of even good stuff can hurt ya, tho. too much of certain vitamins or minerals can hurt ya. for example, if ya eat polar bear liver, you can die from vitamin a poisoning (so don't do that)
peeps in other parts of the world live longer than we do for many reasons. for one thing, our fats are all out of balance in this country. that affects our good/bad cholesterol. we get almost no omega 3's here. in japan and other fish eating countries, they get tons. i notice mona vie has 3's, so that's good.
Apr 07, 2008 06:34 am or, sure, too much of anything can be harmful...part of that is common sense...just don't drink a gallon and you'll be groovy.
The reason people live longer is multifaceted, obviously...less pollution, no growth hormones in their feeds, different processing...
Omega 3's are a big part of MonaVie as well...and as far as cholesterol goes, I just found this right this second in my email from another MonaVie'r
search.msn.com/video/resu...d=1592616091881
Yes, it is a network MLM type of thing, but it's a bit better, I mean, still MLM, but it's arranged in a way that makes it better for people starting out, and creates more of a team effort the way it's set up, it's not like Amway or something where all the money trickles upstream and new people get nothing.
Customers are EASY to find at my age, we all have pops and ticks or some health issue, tell 'em about it and that they should try it, many people will just for the sake of trying it.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
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Apr 07, 2008 08:42 am i dunno that i wanna live longer myself, just live well while im here.
i also take omega 3's everyday
it fixed up a whingeing knee i had for a bit.
the stratorius tendon to be precise.
it went away after taking the omega's.
so i can go joggin more. i hate jogging so i ride now though.
but hey, at least the ol stratorious is good now.
Apr 07, 2008 08:49 am That's my exact thing, living better while I am here...joggin is just asking for knee problems, I'll bike any day over running. Less knee and leg impact and strain. Every runner I know is now developing knee, ankle and hip problems as we are reaching 40ish years old.
I have pretty much the same knee issues as Noize minus the athritis, and this has really, really helped where glocousamine, chondritin, Omega 3's and such has not. Of course, Omega 3's have many other benefits.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Apr 07, 2008 03:24 pm I'm still trying to convince her to try it.
I don't think we'll make any profit here though because I'm sure somebody in nearby Seattle is already selling it.
Do you need a food license to be selling it?
Apr 07, 2008 03:29 pm no, no license necessary.
as far as seattle sources, not sure, I can find out, but you'd be surprised how sparce it is in some places.
regardless, in your case it's about health, not profit, I'm just lobbing that out there as a way to afford it, and if it works, it's a great testimonial.
Apr 07, 2008 08:26 pm Hey Noize I'll be waiting to hear your progress. Dealing with gout and psoriatic arthritis here. And it's new to me. Unbelievable is all I can say. It's really got me questioning able if I'll be able to get back out playing as I've been planning.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Apr 07, 2008 08:39 pm Yeah I told her that Oprah was into it too...to convince her it's mainstream.
I'll mention the thing about smoothing and clearing complexions when she gets back.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 07, 2008 10:03 pm Hey Blues, that is another reason I am trying it. Over the last few years it has gotten very hard to play guitar or even the keys for more then a 5 minute shot without pain setting in. I've turned down many shots to reunite and play live because of that factor. I'd love to be able to go out one or two more times to play a couple gigs live before I cash in my chips.
But ya, I'll keep ya ll posted. I'm only a couple days into the second week so I'm being patient about it.
Which reminds me dB, we'll have to hook up so I can pick up another fix. :-)
Apr 08, 2008 03:01 am noize, that's because of arthritis? what's that feel like? like, if you could describe the pain, how would you describe it?
Apr 08, 2008 08:39 am From what I gather from people I know with athritis it's kinda of a feeling of fat, inflexible joints and dull aches, sometimes very painful. Not a pointed, targetted stabbing pain, just a dull pressure type ache. On a bad day that's my knees, depending on weather fronts and such they sometimes ache very badly...
My mother inlaw has it and hates the winter especially, even a room in a house kept too cold hurts her...and that is what is happening to my wife too...mom in law comes back into town tomorrow for the summer, so we are going to get her on it too.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
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Apr 08, 2008 09:34 am i agree with the running thing dB.
i ride now, i hate jogging and always found it to be generally taxing on the body for not enough of a reason.
i've always been a weights man myself, been doing em for about 10 years.
had my moments of being over it, but i always come back to em.
just in the last year i've been getting more into the cardio. tis going good.
i've alawys kept up with good nutrition too,
it is key to all i think.
knowing about essential and non-essential amino acids is also very beneficial.
Apr 08, 2008 09:38 am I'll take (and have taken) functional strength and cardio over weights any day...when I was training a lot I rarely did weights...pretty much all body-weight resistance...pushups, squats, skipping rope, grappling and stuff like that.
Weights are great if used in moderation. I have to laugh at the guys that pump themsleves up so big they can't even bend to wipe their own *** though. Big and strong doesn't help if you can't move :-)
Apr 08, 2008 05:04 pm hey i tried one of these last night:
www.mix1life.com/
it bills itself as an energy drink (but without any caffeine, all natural stuff) and as a food or light meal.
the blueberry vanilla was impressive. mainly because blueberry is a really really hard flavor to get 'right.' this was 'right.' it had that blueberry sourness, but it was sweet too. tasted like a bowl of blueberries with sugar. thick but not too thick, with some grit to it.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
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Apr 08, 2008 09:06 pm yeah dB, gettin too big is pointless.
i was into it for a while, but ya just get sick of it if ya do it too much.
its is just lifting weights after all, its gets too much.
i started gettin into it when i was doin Akido and subsequently just went with that. i did get alot outa that kinda lifting though. depends on the person i guess.
but usually whats associated with bodybuilding is pretty much right in my experience.
ie; big head and ego's to match.
i can honestly say i was doing it for my own reasons though. (good ones)
hey, i was a Lou Ferrigno fan ok. Ha Ha
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 08, 2008 10:39 pm forty, ya dB has it pretty much spot on. In my case now it can become like someone driving a railroad spike right through the joint area, and the throbbing extends into the muscle area itself, though it isn't actually in the muscle. At the point I'm at now that spike pain can last anywhere from 10 seconds to an hour depending on how much stress I put on my joints throughout the day. If I stay sitting to long in here and don't move my legs it is almost impossible to straighten my knees out right off. Gotta get up gradual like and stretch them out slowly.
The hands and elbows are a bit better then that. Although as stated above if I were to pick up the guitar and play straight for more then 4 or 5 minutes I will get a shot that goes from the fingers right on up through my shoulders. Pretty much the same with the piano as well, but the guitar is worse.
Its a very crippling feeling when you can barely walk up a flight of stairs without wincing. But I have a routine in the studio that I keep my legs moving if I'm sitting for awhile. Just to keep my knees and ankles loose. I will usually get up and walk around a bit every 30 minutes or so as well.
Apr 09, 2008 07:18 am i was sitting a certain way just now. on my side, arm in a weird position. my god it hurt when i got up. this happens frequently. but it goes away in 20 seconds. it's like you freeze your body in a certain position for 30 minutes, and when you get up, your skeleton doesn't cooperate.
is this...related? to what youre saying? i always wrote it off as 'well of course if you sit like that for thirty minutes, of course it's gonna be weird.' but i dont remember those effects from when i was a kid.
Apr 09, 2008 07:43 am it's called "getting old", forty...your joints get less lubricated, blood doesn't flow as freely...that's the exact "general health" type stuff I am talking about...from lack of a good balanced diet...and wear and tear of the years on the body.
Apr 09, 2008 08:38 am i eat fairly well, but that good eatin' started just three months ago. when i got addicted to subways. so many good veggies there...
my cholesterol is so good that the ratio scales say 'may experience reversal of heart disease.'
it doesn't feel like age, really. it feels like total lack of exercise. leading to muscles that are just not ready to do ****.
Apr 09, 2008 08:42 am Ha, yeah, lack of exercise could be it too, for sure.
Outside my skeletal problem, my only real issue is blood pressure...and I could stand to loose about 20 pounds but that seems to be hard to get off since not training hard any more...
Apr 09, 2008 08:47 am i mean, i don't get any exercise. i walk fast and i fidget, but that's it. so i think my muscles are just all messed up. cuz it feels like a muscle thing, come to think of it. it always happens when i sit for a long time in a totally stupid position. like laying on my side with my shoulder in a weird position, holding up my head with my hand, etc.
my BP could be lower. but that's mostly smoking, as far as i can tell, when i measure it after smoking, it's a little high, but otherwise it's in the normal range.
i gotta quit the cigs. tentative quite date within the month for me. got a mutual support thing going on, set for may 1 or earlier...
Apr 09, 2008 08:54 am Ya know one option is to just do some simple stuff while watching the news or something...pushups, squats, lunges, plank, bridge, maybe skip rope during commercials, just some little strength and stretching thing...thats a habit I got in for a while...it's timed by the show, it;'s not dull cuz you have the show to listen to or watch and just stretch and stuff...no expense, no weights just discipline (arguably the hardest part).
Apr 09, 2008 09:05 am thats an idea which could work.
i used to lift. missing now is the motivation for that. i would like a sport, cuz with sports, your exercise comes in pursuit of a real reward: winning. i dunno if i can get up the drive to lift again, though i hope to. that would start with small steps (like no more smoking) and then larger commitments. in the meantime maybe i could get into it slowly via some steps like youre mentioning here. cause you gotta break yourself in before you dive in. i make that mistake every time i try to dive back in again.
Apr 09, 2008 09:07 am before you get into sports, I'd do some basics like I mentioned just to get stretched out and a little muscle tone so you don't hurt yourself...
sports is cool because of the social aspect too, which is a lot of what I liked about MMA, it's a social thing, if you slack your friends call you on it, you are motivating each other, if you miss a few days they call or give you crap when you do come...that type of interaction helps me.
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Apr 09, 2008 12:37 pm The only true sport that I've ever liked is badminton but you can't play it in the wind, in the rain, or without a net or a good place to put a net.
Apr 09, 2008 04:13 pm badminton is fun.
i need to do something involving speed and reflexes, maybe. i've been making some amazing 'catches' lately. listen to what occurred a few days ago. i don't think i talked about this here. i couldn't believe this, haha...
i was in the spice aisle at the store, looking at some kind of extract. you know, it comes in small bottles, but the bottles are in small boxes. the shelf was above my head. i went to replace the box with my left hand, but in doing so i knocked over another box, which began to fall to the ground on the far left side of my body. it was coming down on my extreme side, like at gun-holster position, but farther from my body than that. there was a split second where i realized my left hand was screwed: it still held the original box, which it was in the process of replacing. but somehow i stayed calm and continued replacing the box, looking up at it, even as my right hand shot out from my hip, across my stomach, and caught the falling box at belt-level with a perfect snap/stop motion. this all happened while my eyes were looking up at the box i was trying to replace, and it seemed to happen automatically.
and the other day in the autoparts store, i held two packages, one in each hand. they were PDA holders, and i was comparing them. another man was browsing the shelves next to me. i was reading the left box, when suddenly the box in my right hand slipped. without looking, i snagged it with the same hand that dropped it. the man next to me immediately left.
a few months ago, i dropped my lighter in a weird way. i was outside the airport, and the thing slipped over the top of my hand, scooting out over the upper surface of my hand. my elbow rose as my hand dove down, so that my forearm was vertical, elbow up and hand down, palm facing away from me, and that's how i caught the thing backhanded, with the same hand that dropped it.
i need to find a sport that will allow me to use these abilities!
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Apr 09, 2008 08:41 pm Thats funny i do the same thing and if i dont try for it i usually have time time get my foot under it and flick it up and catch it.
i think its more a case of paying attention to eveything all the time. like being fully aware of alot of things happening at once.
like you know you're going to drop it the second it happens almost.
Maybe its the force Luke?(jokes)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 09, 2008 10:14 pm forty, ya that sounds more like muscle stiffness then joint related. If it goes away that fast then it probably is simply muscle pain.
I think by the end of the next couple of bottles I am hoping to start using my Parabody again. Its a nice universal gym type rig. I can do a lot of low impact and stretching type stuff which should help a good deal hopefully.
I as well need to loose some weight, but that will come in time as well.
Apr 09, 2008 11:44 pm deon, yeah, it's like being ready instantly for whatever's happening, or something. and maybe also not having much of a startle reflex. there have been times when people have tried to scare me, and i simply turn around and say hi.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Apr 10, 2008 08:40 am its called self awareness and control.
i know exactly what you're talking about.
its good to have. use it wisely my young Jedi.
you know, if you can control how upset or stressed you get when you accidently cut yourself, ya hardly bleed at all.
there's all sorts of stuff you can do if you try.
i can block out taste for as long as i like too, among other things.
Apr 10, 2008 08:41 am I see fortymile as sensei in the next karate kid movie now...
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Apr 10, 2008 08:49 am Forty,
One quick tip, however small if you haven't already latched on to this one; ditch the wallet in the back pocket if you have to sit alot. Much better for the back muscles not being scewed. I felt like a complete idot some years back. Went in to the doctor for persistant back aches. He told me to clean out my wallet after looking at me sit for a moment. I felt even dumber after it worked :(
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Apr 10, 2008 10:22 am forty san! wax onn, wax off!!
wallet in wallet out!!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 10, 2008 11:11 pm Walt is spot on with that. I quit carrying a wallet years ago for that reason. Although now I have my pop in laws for sentimental reasons. But when driving or sitting here is is out of my pocket first thing.
Apr 11, 2008 01:30 am i noticed something about the wallet and back too. but i still go out with it. when im at home i remove it from my pocket. ya need a wallet. and where else could you put it besides your back pocket?
Apr 11, 2008 08:01 am I talked to my sister last night, she has acid reflux problem, neck muscle pain (not skeletal pain), and thanks to 20 or so years of being a hair dresser, wrist, finger and foot pain.
After a week she says her acid reflux and neck pain is gone...the hand and foot pain is still there, but for a week, she is very pleased.
My dad got a couple bottles to my aunt who has major arthritis type issues, they call it fibramialgia, but I dunno, I just know she's always in pain...can't wait to hear from her in the next week or so.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Apr 11, 2008 11:30 am ^ever heard of trigger point therapy?
seriously, it starts to work, first time everytime and is only needed a few times, max. I only needed it once.
for example, when muscles stiffen up and go nuts, its because of the trigger points in that muscle, one or two start complaining and then it starts a chain reaction right down the line, till that whole muscle is in spasm, hence the crook neck or back spasm.
trigger point therapy releases the spasms and they dont come back in my experience.
the reason why getting cracked, gettin massages or even accupuncture doesnt last, is because they only get a few triggers and thats all they need to start up again and trigger the rest all over again.
trigger therapy releases all of them at once so the can assume the original postition.
i thoroughly recommend it.
most back and neck problems are muscular, the ones that arent can still benefit regardless.
i had what i thought were major neck issues for 13 years, one trip down to trigger point therapy and i havent ever had an issue again.
i might add i only had one side of my traps done and i was supposed to go back for more, but i dont feel i need to.
point is...its very effective.
Apr 12, 2008 07:00 pm Word is my aunt woke up with no hip pain this morning...pain in her hands and feet still, but no hip pain.
Very cool...
This trigger point therapy sounds interesting.
Apr 12, 2008 10:27 pm hmm, i don't know how much stock i put in these acai claims. sounds like snake oil to me.
but i just found out how to pronounce it. weird. A-sigh-EE, with the greatest accent on the last syllable.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 12, 2008 10:50 pm Well, I won't make a huge statement for it yet. But I will say it has already changed several things for me. I wont say it has cured my knee's as it hasn't... Yet. But I have experienced a relief that is maybe not equal to the cortisone but I don't think I have invested enough time in it yet.
I will say it has changed several things for me body pain wise though. My hands, while not completely better do not bother me nearly as much as on most days.
I have not touched my melatonin since starting to use the Mona Vie and can honestly say I have gotten more complete nights of sleep then I have in years.
One particular bodily function which for me was a bit of a problem is now easier to deal with. Lets just say I can eat foods that normally would have sent me searching for a restroom in 10 minutes as those food went right through me. And that was a huge list of foods.
I get up feeling much more rested in the morning and don't head straight for the caffeine to get moving in the morning.
So for me a little more time will tell. But I have already gained a bit of faith in this particular product. Which relies on more then just the Acai berry for its purpose.
Apr 12, 2008 11:37 pm but that's simply incredible. people have been searching for a 'miracle tonic' for thousands of years
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 12, 2008 11:59 pm I think its just a matter of getting healthy stuff into your body in proper quantities. I'm not one who has eaten properly for years, nor have I taken that good care of my body either. Not saying that its all caused by miss use of my body though. Some things can't be controlled. But this seems to have done something as I know it isn't all mental on my part. I've always been able to control pain to a certain extent mentally, but not to the extremes I am feeling now.
I know I am a skeptic when it comes to stuff like this and usually pass it by with the same snake oil thought you mentioned. But I have gotten to the point now I am willing to try almost anything and this happened to be it.
Apr 13, 2008 12:19 am FWIW:
I'm 48, and I've smoked at least a pack of cigarettes a day since the age of 15, and drunk heavily since age 18. I'm thirty pounds overweight, my cholesterol must be through the roof, I was born with a heart murmur, and I'm enjoying life to the fullest.
I say bully for you if you choose a healthier lifestyle, but if you think there's a magic elixir, well...
There are three - caffeine, nicotine, and beer.
Your life may vary.
Apr 13, 2008 12:58 am haha i was going to say beer was the only miracle tonic i know, too.
but i suppose it's possible to experience some of these effects. i don't think you could trick yourself so completely. i know a lot of people say that vitamins alone change the way they feel. that hasn't been true for me, though. the only thing that's really changed the way i feel has been vegetable-and-home-cooking binges (no processed stuff, less fat, no fast food) and getting enough sleep. there are times when i move in that direction simply because i crave it. i get hungry for those things. the next day or two, i do feel more vibrant. a certain buoyancy. (you know what else creates that feeling? a sudden drop in humidity). supplements have never done that for me, but then again the acai juice is in fact a food, and a healthy one.
Apr 13, 2008 06:20 pm Yeah, obviously a healthy lifestyle is the best, but for many of us, we all leave busy lives, eating healthy is often substituted for fast food and crap like that.
While no drink is a magic elixir, if a couple shots a day gives you the recommended 6 helpings of fruit a day, and makes it easy, bringing with it a little more than a typical apple or orange will, is not worth doing?
I'd say it is.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 13, 2008 08:06 pm Ya, I've been doing heavy dose of chondriton for years with not much help coming from it. But to even get the slightest relief from starting this. I'm of the mid that changing my diet and having a little less pain will get me going on the weights again and that in turn may help relieve even more.
I'm not expecting miracle's but you never really know.
muzikaMusic is my boyfriendMember
Since: Jan 31, 2008
May 10, 2008 01:41 pm i heard about that berry that it can be good, i wonder, is it good for depression and anxiety which i suffer from, i am always looking for natural remides because i dont like to take perscriptions...
May 10, 2008 02:05 pm You are the second person to ask this...I can't find any direct information from studies that say it will, but I have personally found, as I have some experience with depression, or, people with it, and have seen that something as simple as a good, healthy diet can often work wonders...and the sad thing is, that what the modern civilized world sees as a healthy diet is increasingly bad...pesticide ridden fruits and vegetables, growth hormone injected meat, and the like...
While I haven't been actually diagnosed with depression, I can say that this drink has improved my overall mental state and mood, which I attribute mostly to simple, good nutrition, a more restful sleep and more energized body from it.
The bummer is, from what I have seen from the commonly, commercially available Acai drinks is that they are heavily sweetened, adding sugar, or worse yet, the artificial sugars, into your diet, or, they have so little Acai in them it is virtually worthless...they have kinda bastardized the fruit itself for simple marketing reasons...as Acai is becoming a marketing trend now. Whereas this drink is nothing artificial...so while it's more expensive, it's actually real.
My sister has been diagnosed with depression and the drink has helped her with some physical issues, and has given her better sleep and she has said she does feel a lot better...
I'd be curious to know how somebody like you would fare, as based on my experience, it would seem a worthy try...if you wanna, hit me up via the contact us link, I'd love to get ya hooked up if you want to.
Here is a link answers.yahoo.com/questio...19163614AAsSsJo
Here is a testimonial I pulled from some other forum:
I have many improvements after using it. My 2+ year old "shoulder impingement" problem now gone. Within a week or two of drinking MonaVie my shoulder pain is gone.I am fully energized all day now. Remember, I drink 2 ounces in the morning, and 2 ounces at night. Yet I sleep like I'm on drugs, and I wake up much easier instead of clinging to my pillow. What's more is my energy is consistent throughout the day including the afternoon. I'm now drinking less coffee . My overall mood is up too, several of the nutrients in MonaVie are linked to lowered depression, and so obviously better moods.
It has loads of phytonutrients, which of are linked to helping depression, though, like I said, I have no actual studies to quote, just looking at the nutritional content, and what each of those things are known to help with...I'd call it a good chance of helping.
May 10, 2008 08:51 pm The more I read phytonutrients help all sort of mental processing and whatnot...maybe I should give some to my psycho neighbor and just pay for it myself, it'd probably end up saving me time and money in the long run...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 10, 2008 09:13 pm I'll second dB on the overall better feeling from this stuff. I as well experienced a huge difference in my sleep and awareness I could say. Just a better more stable feeling throughout the day rather then a simple caffeine jump to get the day rolling and then burning out and needing more caffeine to keep going. This stuff just makes me feel much more rested and energized throughout the day.
May 11, 2008 12:32 pm *bump*
As I saw muzika was on the forum, wanted her to see what I found out...
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
May 11, 2008 08:15 pm hey muzika, have you heard of "St. John's Wort"?
Its a natural herb that you can buy in tablet or capsule form which is really good for anxiety and stress.
Can get it from any chemist or health shop.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
May 11, 2008 08:18 pm having said that, nothing in this world is better for your mind set than regular exercise.
"for me", the harder i push myself the better i feel mentally.
you know what they say...? healthy body, healthy mind and all that.
May 11, 2008 09:00 pm Yeah, a good diet, lots of water and regular (not even needing to be extreme) exercise does wonders.
Sometimes, some people just need a little help though...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 11, 2008 09:15 pm Like me, I need all the help I can get.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
May 12, 2008 09:19 am yeah, dB i think that's what put alot of people off, there is no real need to push yerself hard, unless its working for you and you like it.
it surely can be done with just a good half hour of execise 3 times a week.
alot of personal trainers for example, especially the young, dumb and full of you know what, they get these clients and alot of them with not much experience and just flog the guts out of em.
Of course they dont get past the 3rd or 4th session because they are so disillusioned and down right sore that they think stuff that. rightly so.
not good for business if you're a trainer i guess.
A little thought goes along way?
May 12, 2008 09:22 am I get out for a good bike ride a couple times a week with my kid, not killing ourselves, just enjoying the ride...take the dog on a few walks, play catch with the kids, lift a few weights or pushups while listening to the news...it works for me.
Oh, and MonaVie. :-)
It's not about being in the greatest shpae in the world, it's about taking simple, routine care of yourself...stay agile, stay mobile, keep that blood flowin!
May 12, 2008 12:36 pm Quote:
i heard about that berry that it can be good, i wonder, is it good for depression and anxiety which i suffer from, i am always looking for natural remides because i dont like to take perscriptions...
unfortunately there is no magic cure for anxiety and depression. Healthy diet and exercise all help but from my experience you have to find a good therapist(which is very difficult) who will help you find and work through possible issues and give you direction on how to continually work on keeping your mental state stable. Its a lot of constant work. Medicines do help but in the long run im finding that you have to work it out with research, therapy and mental exercises.
May 17, 2008 05:34 pm
interesting
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
May 17, 2008 09:39 pm man like i said before i love medical science, this is great. for me, being explained everything makes it more believable, otherwise ya just taking everything as gospel.
fair enough it could be still bull-twang,(not talikg about Mona Vie here) but that's why you try it and find out for yeself.
ya know, with the whole cancer thing, i notice, more and more professionals from different aspects of health managment, have very similar theories about it and its treatment and are having major success with it.
Its close people, real close.
the thing that gets me though is, with all the billions of dollars going into researching cancer, WHY!!, for the love of god, are the alternative practices figuring this S##t out before them.
there are of course theories on this you've all heard about.
Seems to me they are true( i always thought so anyway)...time will tell, and it will!
There will be no more funding for these so called "researchers" when they find a cure or cures.
May 18, 2008 08:25 am exercise is way beyond great for depression. read this very important and paradigm-shifting article.
seedmagazine.com/news/200...age=all&p=y
conservatives should make a special effort to read past the initial politics, and liberals should say 'no' to it. the injection of politics here is a serious flaw in the article, and the conclusions are way too extreme.
but everything else is golden. exercise generates new brain cells in the hippocampus. the new theory is that this is how antidepressants really work. it explains the two-week lag (between when you first start taking anti-d's and when you start feeling the effects) rather beautifully.
so in the end, it turns out you have more control than you think you do. antidepressants are still important for the serious cases, and are still good for those who believe in pharmacological makeovers generally. (i do, thanks to peter kramer. but i also dig the exercise insights here)
May 18, 2008 08:39 am made a mistake:
that first article should be required reading for anyone into theories of depression. the serotonin hypothesis is wrong.
but also read this one to see some stuff about how exercise produces the same effects that antidepressants do:
www.nytimes.com/2007/08/1...rain.html?fta=y
May 18, 2008 08:59 am My aunt, whom MonaVie has helped greatly, said it she was in a vicious circle of meds from her doctor. Has fibromyaligia, so she can't move without hurting, starts gaining weight, so the doc gives her antidepressants, which has a side affect of gaining weight, still can't move...it sucked. With this stuff her foot pain is gone and hip pain is far less and she is walking about 1 1/2 hours a day now which is awesome.
Exercise is HUGE...for anybody.
May 18, 2008 09:03 am i bought arnie's bodybuilding encyclopedia today. i hope to get back into an old hobby. i'm an ectomorph, so i don't get huge, but the results are still great, and the feeling is too.
May 18, 2008 09:07 am "huge" is weird to me...fit, tone and well formed is another...I look at muscle heads and it weirds me out...strength means little without flexibility.
May 18, 2008 09:11 am right. me, though, i just have a hard time putting on muscle. it goes to a point, and pretty quickly and noticeably, but then it just stops before i want it to. i'm going to have to do less reps and more weight if i try this again.
May 18, 2008 05:36 pm are you trying to tell us that mona vie is actually what's behind the patriot's record-shattering? not spying, not tom brady actually being an advanced football robot...but mona vie?
May 18, 2008 05:46 pm yep, thats it :-D
MonaVieGate.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
May 19, 2008 07:25 am hey forty. dunno how crazy you wanna go with the training but, if you wanna put on muscle eat a protien and carb ratio of approximatley 60:40.
eat 1 gram of protien per body pound eg; 170 pound person eats 170 grams of protein a day.
carbs anywhere between 1 and a half - 3 grams per body pound. depending on how fast your metabolism, you'll have to tweak it.
if you are a "hardgainer" maybe start at 2 and a half times body pounds for carbs, if ya start getting podgy, back it off a bit.
follow that and ya cant go wrong.
if you've got the Arnie book it'll have all that in it.
combine all that with a good training regime and its all good.
main thing is not to overtrain...go backwards you will.
if ya need to make sense of certain things, let me know, would be glad to help.
I used to compete a few years back, just starting to get back into it myself.
With the protein by a whey protien isolate from the health shop.
if ya wanna go that far. makes thing easier for sure.
May 19, 2008 07:44 am That protien shake business doesn't work for everybody, it's a good rule of thumb, but not 100%. Then again, nothing in the world of health and wellness is 100%...hell, nothing in life is 100%.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
May 19, 2008 09:35 am well it does and it doesnt.
the whole thing is a package. you gotta do the right things or at least the basic fundumentals. If your body is lacking in vitamins and mins it makes it alot harder also. your body cant assimilate the protien you feed it among other supplements.
thing with weight training is, keep it simple. people go too stupid with it and burn out mentally and physicaly. Simple compound excersises and simple clean diet.
no protein shake is gonna work if your body simply is not interested.
things like, trying to live on em or not having enough carbs in your diet can render the shakes usless.
shakes dont make you big, there is no magic bullet, discipline in diet and consistency in training is the only way.
having said that, there is no need to go crazy with it. im doing a little over half of what i used to do and still getting great results.
not keen to get how i was before but am more keen on staying trim and lean.
i do agree with the nothing is 100% comment.
They make it sound like its all about one product or one way of doing things when i guess, like a great guitar rig, its a combination of quality gear and correct applications that makes it.
also as im sure you'll agree, with health, what works well for you, doesnt always work for the next person. we are all unique.
people spend a lifetime trying to work out what is good for them.
Dec 24, 2010 04:22 am
peeps in other parts of the world live longer than we do for many reasons. for one thing, our fats are all out of balance in this country. that affects our good/bad cholesterol. we get almost no omega 3's here.
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