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Posted on Apr 03, 2007 04:06 pm
Mr.Bytch Killa
Member Since: Apr 03, 2007
what tall gonna keep it for reference...lol...all yall are really lame and need to go buy a slang dictinary or something.RAPPERS ARE MUSICIANS as well.look at ice cube,scarface, and 2pac they all rap legend and one day i will be
all yall haters so (Deleted by Moderator) yall
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Apr 03, 2007 04:09 pm I don't recall anyone saying rappers were not musicians? You won't get much help though if you don't try to communicate in a somewhat intelligible manner...yo. Try speaking English, you might be surprised at the help you get. There are people from ALL music styles here willing to help...
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 03, 2007 04:09 pm We've pretty much answered every question you've asked. Go look at your initial post and you'll see that I reccomended getting a midi control surface, and asked what you needed for the mic to do, and also suggested that you use the search feature. If this is "hatin" I guess I'll start "helpin" by not giving you any more tips.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 03, 2007 05:34 pm I don't get this guy whatsoever. I understand what he's saying, just not why.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Apr 03, 2007 05:37 pm I think its Walters in disguise.
Apr 03, 2007 06:08 pm As soon as he asks about "hearing thru mixes" or whatever the hell that stupid **** was, then I'll wonder...
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Apr 03, 2007 08:31 pm Many come and go but there will never be another walters. Only cheap imitations. lol
Apr 03, 2007 08:53 pm Agreed 100%...totally one of a kind.
Apr 03, 2007 10:49 pm who the heck was walters?
lol
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 12:15 am Where did we find this guy? Would it be possible to put him back?
Apr 04, 2007 01:15 am I never knew who walters was but after checking out that link,I would say either this is walters or a textbook OCD.Maybe that what walters was?.Hey walters do you have OCD?.Way of the future.Way of the future.Just a guess.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Apr 04, 2007 02:59 am Thanks zek... I needed a good laugh... forgot all 'bout that dude .
btw, 'sup guys... been a while . : )
Apr 04, 2007 06:38 am yeah, there are a few threads on HRC from him he also plagued homerecording.com, gearslutz.com and a few other audio forums...he's a nut.
here's another recording.org/ftopict-28627.html
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 07:38 am Hey that's a good question he was asking. I too would like to know how to transparent tracks, like an art transparent, so i can hear through the tracks please.
Apr 04, 2007 07:59 am Hell, I have about 100 songs that are fully transparent, very quick to record, mix and produce...hard to get the final level right though.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 08:15 am only a hundred? Man I'm writing hundreds of transparent songs a dday. they're so clear you hear right through everything and are mistakenly thinking you're hearing silence
Apr 04, 2007 08:35 am Next time I am in Houston I'll stop by so we can have a transparent jam session.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 08:37 am cool, I'll set up the transparent studio too.
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 09:42 am Rappers are as much musicians as people who write in their diary.
Seriously, come on. Rappers are the stupidest people alive, going to say that from knowing Three 6 Mafia. All of their hit songs were written/produced by a 35 year old Italian guy, all that the "artists" do is read a piece of paper and throw in random, irrelevant "words".
Btw: Rap "ledgends" come and go. Seriously, who the hell cares about 2pac anymore. How about any of the people who were "hit artists" 5 years ago, do you even remember 1 of their songs?
Please, Mr. Bytch Killa, entertain us more with your ignorance. We will continue to laugh at you so long as you continue to make absolutely no sense.
And yes, I'm a hater, are you?
Also, did you expect us to take your post down or something? Run in fear of the 7 year old retarded kid?
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
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LokiCone PokerMember
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Apr 04, 2007 09:51 am ah you're missing out. It's the star wars gansta rap.
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 09:56 am o snap son dat rit der be a hard beat i mean it got all does notes n ****
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 09:59 am Hey Loki get on MSN if you can. If you're at school, www.msn2go.com
Apr 04, 2007 10:02 am I tend to feel pretty much the same way as neoific, though not quite as militantly. :-)
"Rapping" is, I believe, a skill, but comparing the skill to being a "musician" I don't really buy, I would liken it more to auctioneering.
Rap "legends" are typically only recognized by the rapper community (not rap fan community), which is minimal per capita, and most are forgotten as fast as they can kill each other...as far as I am concerned they are reaping what they are sowing. Promote violent, ignorant lifestyles, that's how ya die...not really the legend I personally want to leave behind, just being a violent, ignorant punk...that can "rap"...it's really very sad actually, I pity most of those guys rather than have any real respect, with very few exception. Ice Cube being one that'd actually a nice guy and a class act...Dre, Ice T even...at least he started making his own music...
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 10:06 am Guess I was harsh, but thats my personality.
Built Marines tough I guess.
Apr 04, 2007 10:16 am i can enjoy or even say sometimes
"that is a good rap song" even tho i dont like it
i dont particuallrly like some artists like kelly clarkson, but ill admnit she is a good artist, just not for me
but rap is a skill
untill.. u get into the hardcore "gansta" rap,
that **** enoys me
its all about screwin and killin bitches n stupid stuff
really come on
there are so many "throw away ryhms" in there songs its rediculus
a 6 year old can write a more inspiering song
but raping like db said is a skill.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 11:32 am lmao hydrial I'll let you figure out what is so funny in your post. I'll give you a hint though, it's a single line of 8 words.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Apr 04, 2007 11:37 am Quote:
Built Marines tough I guess.
heh, and with a ducky avatar to prove it =).
Apr 04, 2007 11:41 am lol Loki "like db said is a skill..." .. pretty funny. I have little respect for rappers... cept guys like this:
profile.myspace.com/index...iendID=22864243
and:
profile.myspace.com/index...iendID=34406047
But as you can obviously see/hear, their focus isn't "killin bitches" and considering the content of their songs, they really don't care if they become a legend. Even if you don't agree with what they stand for, you gotta give them props for bucking the culture that surrounds rap and standing up for what they believe.
Apr 04, 2007 11:42 am looks like a pissed off ducky though :-)
Let it be known I never intended to promote raping...and don't! Or rapping...
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Apr 04, 2007 11:57 am Yes, lets see what happens to rap if we rename "rappers" as "rappists" hehehe
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 12:31 pm You know, it's been posted before but I think this is a perfect time to show just how rap friendly this site really is.
Here is a translation from the "Ebonics translator" at joel.net/EBONICS/translator.asp
You know, it'sbeen posted 'bfoe but I th'o't dis here iz uh perfect tyme ta show just how rap friendly dis here site really iz.
www.cpttripps.com/wma/8411.mp3
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Apr 04, 2007 12:33 pm I don't like rap/hip hop. Just a personal taste thing. I certainly don't like any form of art that in mysogonistic, and advocates violence. If people like it, then good luck to them.
I do wish, however, that the rap community would come up with something original, and slightly musical. I can appreciate Dre's stuff, but I can spot one of his tracks a mile off - there's no real variation.
I think my favourite 'lame thing' is the sidekick guy who nods around the main artist and echoes the odd word here and there. All those hours of practice, and the perfomance is:
"Look!"
"Shook"
"Hay...ho....hay...ho..."
"Night"
"Fight"
Nod, nod, nod, nod, nod... walk like your pants are falling down...nod, nod, wave hands in air....nod, nod....do the gangsta finger sign thing....nod..nod...fold arms....nod....nod...
"Like"
"Bike"
Nod...etc.
Great job. Bravo. What a musician.
Apr 04, 2007 12:37 pm hahahahahahahaha
It's not a sidekick, it's a "posse"...jeezuz...get wit it, yo.
The guys I mentioned I like were not even for musical reasons, more for personal reasons...Ice Cube seems like a nice guy, Ice T I love watching in films, decent actor, Dre just seems like he has risen above the ****...
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 12:38 pm What!! I would love to be the background guy and get paid to sing 15% of the song :)
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 12:48 pm actually, what's going on there is that is the guy doing the beats, trying to talk to the producer and engineer behind the glass. He can see their lips moving, but isn' wearing his headphones. They're trying to tell him "okey... that beat was cool but this whol song is way too repetitive", so he keeps asking "what? What?". And they just decided to keep it. Now it's a staple in rap.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Apr 04, 2007 01:10 pm heheheh Loki....
"What? What? What?"
Musicians...yep...
Apr 04, 2007 01:36 pm What did ah miss ;-)
Coco
P.S. Auld Walters eh..nutter he wis!
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Apr 04, 2007 02:02 pm Quote:
Built Marines tough, I guess.'
Nope, just ignorant. Actually a lot of you guys have come off pretty ignorant to me in this thread. If rapping is not musicianship, then neither is drumming. I've heard just as stupid/simple lyrics in many other genres, not just rap, including punk, metal (which i can't even understand most of the time), lots of rock, etc.
Rap is by far the largest selling genre of music currently. There are a ton of extremely talented producers/beat makers out there, beyond Dr. Dre.
Bottom line, there is bullshit rap, and there is bullshit other music. And the violent\mysoginistic argument about rap is similar to watching a porn movie or Saw, and saying that all movies are obscene. Most of you are painting with too broad a brush, but go ahead cuz it's easier.
Apr 04, 2007 02:10 pm In all fairness, justifying it's music because it's the best selling music in the world is laughable since Windows is the best selling OS and "Blades of Glory" was a high grossing movie it's opening weekend.
I have absolutely zero respect for the lifestyle promoted by the bulk of the rap/hip hop culture, and for that I will make no apologies...to be fair I also feel the exact same away about most music that is that vulgar and promotes that type of message and artists that try so hard to be tough, mean and disrespectful regardless of style they deserve no respect.
If you find that ignorant, so be it, I guess.
Not saying they don't have the right to do it, cuz they do, as much as I have the right to think they are as ignorant as you think I am. I also think movies like Saw are stupid...but porn, well... :-D
Also get sick of stupid kids whose kicker I can hear inside my car when he is 8 cars up in line and wears his pants around his *** and his cap on sideways...pull your damn pants up...ya look like an idiot.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Apr 04, 2007 02:17 pm Coolo: If you really read some of the entries here you'll see that most have really expressed their opinions based on the lowest common denominators in the genre. This was incited by a number of posts by a ill-mannered, impolite person. We we're just running with the theme for the fun of it. I agree that all genres have good and bad exponents - e.g. Tool vs. ..say...Venom. Both kinda in the same genre, but miles apart in ability, and listenability.
I can't stand country music either. I might be dragged into a similar thread about that sometime...It's not "easier" it's just harmless fun.
I would not dream of tarring you with the same brush as the guy who just nods and shouts "What" all night (unless that's what you do...). We all know you work hard at your craft, and strive to make good music. That sets you, and many others apart from the ill-mannered wannabes who think that because they can rhyme they are going to be superstars. Your post is clear, and well thought out. His was a total mess, and plainly just rude.
It's a difference as wide as Stuart Sutcliffe/Paul McCartney. Both played bass with the Beatles, one was an apparent waste of space.
Apr 04, 2007 02:18 pm Comparing coolo to ***** Killer is like...well...not possible. Two entirely different leagues...
Besides, few people started smackin on rap, just his demeanor the rap smack talk was just fun. He was the one that started defending rap when nobody really said anything about that. I just said something about the stupid-*** name.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 04, 2007 02:26 pm Ya know, I could really care less if that dude is fantastic or 100% pure crap in regards to his rap productions. What got me was his smack talk. Has nothing to do what musical genre he prefers.
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Apr 04, 2007 08:38 pm Ok, here comes a long post that I feel compelled to write. The previous post was made at work and so I had to keep it "brief". But basically, understand, that Hip Hop is something that means a lot to me and I did take offense to some of the stuff I read in this thread. I will try make my point without offending anyone else, and maybe you can see where I'm coming from. It seems I have to constantly "educate" or remind people that the Hip Hop you may see on MTV or BET videos is not the only Hip Hop that is out there.
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Ya know, I could really care less if that dude is fantastic or 100% pure crap in regards to his rap productions. What got me was his smack talk. Has nothing to do what musical genre he prefers.
For sure. MrKiller comes across as a joker who could stand to do a little growing up, and I don't take him very serious either. Additionally I'd be super surprised if in at this current point in time he was a good mc, but you never know.
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Rappers are as much musicians as people who write in their diary.
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"Rapping" is, I believe, a skill, but comparing the skill to being a "musician" I don't really buy, I would liken it more to auctioneering.
Rappers are as much musicians as drummers. Both have limited chance to adjust tone or pitch, but concentrate more on rhythm, and both have the ability to drive a song. Rapping is a musical skill to me.
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Seriously, come on. Rappers are the stupidest people alive, going to say that from knowing Three 6 Mafia. All of their hit songs were written/produced by a 35 year old Italian guy, all that the "artists" do is read a piece of paper and throw in random, irrelevant "words".
I don't know if what you say about Three 6 Mafia is true or not, but saying that rappers are the stupidest people alive is plain old ignorant. I am a rapper, and I dare say that I am not one of the stupidest people alive by any stretch of the imagination. Your statement is like looking at Jim Druckenmiller and saying that quarterbacks are the stupidest people alive.
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Btw: Rap "ledgends" come and go. Seriously, who the hell cares about 2pac anymore. How about any of the people who were "hit artists" 5 years ago, do you even remember 1 of their songs?
I still care about 2pac's music. It is still relevant. It is still enjoyable to listen to. Your statements above come from a point of reference where YOU don't care about rap music, and so you can't remember any hit songs from 5 years ago, just like I'm not into rock so much, and I can't remember any hit rock songs from 5 years ago. But I went to a party over the weekend where they were playing rap songs from the nineties and almost everybody knew almost all the words.
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Rap "legends" are typically only recognized by the rapper community (not rap fan community), which is minimal per capita, and most are forgotten as fast as they can kill each other...as far as I am concerned they are reaping what they are sowing. Promote violent, ignorant lifestyles, that's how ya die...not really the legend I personally want to leave behind, just being a violent, ignorant punk...that can "rap"...it's really very sad actually, I pity most of those guys rather than have any real respect, with very few exception. Ice Cube being one that'd actually a nice guy and a class act...Dre, Ice T even...at least he started making his own music...
Just wanted to point out that most rappers are not killing each other. It seems as if the exception is perceived to be the rule. Also there are many "legends" in Hip Hop, and one group was even inducted into the Rock Hall of Fame this last go around.
[quote]i can enjoy or even say sometimes
"that is a good rap song" even tho i dont like it
i dont particuallrly like some artists like kelly clarkson, but ill admnit she is a good artist, just not for me
but rap is a skill
untill.. u get into the hardcore "gansta" rap,
that enoys me
its all about screwin and killin bitches n stupid stuff
really come on
there are so many "throw away ryhms" in there songs its rediculus
a 6 year old can write a more inspiering song
but raping like db said is a skill.[/quote]
Except for the horrible spelling in this post, I can't really knock it. Unless of course you're saying Kelly Clarkson is a rapper (but I'm assuming your not). But yeah, I don't give all rap a pass. There is a lot of garbage out there and a lot of garbage is on the radio.
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profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction...iendID=34406047
Someone actually gave me one of their albums once, I still have it. Anyhow, it's just another example of christians (and/or any religion) appropriating the popular cutlure around them to get their message across. I don't have any problem with it, I'm just saying...
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I don't like rap/hip hop. Just a personal taste thing. I certainly don't like any form of art that in mysogonistic, and advocates violence. If people like it, then good luck to them.
This is a perfectly valid statement. I don't expect everyone to like rap. Everybody has their tastes.
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I do wish, however, that the rap community would come up with something original, and slightly musical.
To me this is a case of you having limited Hip Hop knowledge and then making assumptions, and to me it came off ignorant. The rap community has come up with plent of original ideas/material/etc. And I don't know what you mean by slightly musical, but whatever sound you like, Hip Hop has borrowed from it (well maybe not really country, but just about everything else). There was even a rapper who did several songs backed by the Philadelphia(?) philharmonic symphony, if I remember right. There are plenty of rap/Hip Hop groups backed by full bands (check out Crown City Rockers or Heiruspecs if you want to hear some of my favorites).
[quote]I think my favourite 'lame thing' is the sidekick guy who nods around the main artist and echoes the odd word here and there. All those hours of practice, and the perfomance is:
"Look!"
"Shook"
"Hay...ho....hay...ho..."
"Night"
"Fight"[/quote]
This is a matter of taste, I guess, but the point of the hype man is to help get the crowd into the show. They also serve to give the main mc little respites so they can take a breath when performing, as sometimes songs are not written with breaks, and getting a chance for breath intake is not always available. Also when most rap songs are recorded, overdubs are recorded on emphasis words. Obviously the main mc needs someone to back up those words to give them the same emphasis in the live performance or it may sound "not quite right" for the fan at the performance. It may not seem like they're doing much, but they are very valuable parts of the show from the performers standpoint. I'm sure I can think many things that I think are lame that rock (or pick a genre) artists do, but it goes back to a matter of taste.
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In all fairness, justifying it's music because it's the best selling music in the world is laughable since Windows is the best selling OS and "Blades of Glory" was a high grossing movie it's opening weekend.
You are entirely right with this, I was just trying to give the genre some credibility and I know that money has some weight with your "type" (smiles out loud).
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I have absolutely zero respect for the lifestyle promoted by the bulk of the rap/hip hop culture, and for that I will make no apologies...to be fair I also feel the exact same away about most music that is that vulgar and promotes that type of message and artists that try so hard to be tough, mean and disrespectful regardless of style they deserve no respect.
Fair enough except that I would like to change the work "bulk" to "most visible".
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Also get sick of stupid kids whose kicker I can hear inside my car when he is 8 cars up in line and wears his pants around his *** and his cap on sideways...pull your damn pants up...ya look like an idiot.
Kids will be kids. Pants sagging is the new long hair.
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Coolo: If you really read some of the entries here you'll see that most have really expressed their opinions based on the lowest common denominators in the genre.
If that's the case, then I apologize for this long *** post, but while I did get that in some cases, I didn't get that feeling for most of the posts. Rather I thought many arguments were made on generalities. But if I was wrong, again, I apologize. And though I'm not always sure how I'm perceived, I'm glad I'm not being lumped in the same pocket as the original poster by the fine people here at HRC.
Apr 04, 2007 09:09 pm What are you two, the Hannity and Colmes of the music world????
Great post, Coolo. Very well thought out, articulate, and so on. But you're not foolin' us. We can all see the big *** "Kill whitey" between every line, no matter how you try to suger coat it! Just kidding. :)
I'm now loading NWA's "Express Yourself" into the ol' mp3 playa....classic hiphop, baby. Classic.
Apr 04, 2007 09:39 pm Quote:
You are entirely right with this, I was just trying to give the genre some credibility and I know that money has some weight with your "type" (smiles out loud).
Replacing, of course "your type" for "most visible of my basic position". ;-)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 04, 2007 10:31 pm Oh man, why did I start with this thread. I have had a friggin migraine coming on for the last 4 days and haven't kept up on the posts. But I had to see what this Mr. B K was all about. Having read the other threads before posting here I have to say that he does appear to be a joker or just plain not caught up to reality yet. Judging by his picture I am gonna pass judgment and call him a poser or a wanna be. Just like the white guy who posted here a few times and had nothing but stolen beats with violent lyrics poorly rapped over them. Sorry, I just don't get it. Grow up and join the real world and rap about something that will matter or make a difference. Not about crap that is gonna convince some 12 year old its alright to go sell/smoke crack and slap a whore up cause she wasn't naughty enough. Gimme a break.
I have to agree that most are looking at the low end of the spectrum here when it comes to rap. But I have to agree that I as well do not care for, nor will I promote that kind of violent rap or hip hop at all. There are way too many good artists that get a bad name in those genres because of the thugs who are just in it for the cool factor. Guns and boose and drugs and bitches and hoes is not what it is all about. coolo, you of all people should know that. Look at the music you have done. Come damn good messages in your stuff and the stuff you promote.
Have a listen to Atmosphere, no killing or slapping your ***** up there. Some profanity but very little and well placed so as to slip by mostly unnoticed. There are many others who have a good message, or a better way to make rap and hip hop go past the violence and into something more positive.
coolo is very right in using the phrase "most visible" and that is the pity of the rap hip hop scene. Now you know why coolo is a big part of an underground scene. Because the most visible and above ground rap and hip hop is what the big money pays for, violence and sex and drugs sell big to the wanna be gangsters of the world. And as long as they are out there then this crap will stay above ground and keep those kats all making money off stupid kids, (of all races, not just black and white) because MTV makes it look real cool with all the pretty colors and the shiney cars and gold chains and ****!
Me on the other hand. I like rap and hip hop, first off if its good and original, and even some not so original. Secondly as long as it stays the **** away from the violent crap. I wanna hear about something else. There are some real creative musicians behind some very talented MC's out there. And ya, many of them use or make loop based beats. Nothing wrong with that at all. Anyone wanna take a guess as to what my income was last year from loops and beats creation?? And even doing that stuff I still fancy myself a musician. And I almost have as much fun doing that as writing a full commercial or other bit of music.
Now my ****** head really hurts and I'm gonna grab a fistful of asprin and go close my throbbing eyes.
Peace, Luv and granola crunch!
Nozie
Apr 04, 2007 11:01 pm I'm going to add in another $0.02 to a very interesting thread. I also agree violence and disrespecting folks certainly shouldn't be promoted in music.
But as to rap... what drew me into the genre was the beats. I still dig them. I've just chosen to avoid the "most visible" rap/hip-hop musicians because of the lyrics... but still the beats... haha.
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 08:09 am Coolo: Don't call me fake. That comment I made had nothing to do with music at all; it was talking about my family. Don't **** with my family, man.
Apr 05, 2007 08:31 am calm down, man...
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 08:40 am I'll chill, just don't call me ignorant for having parents serving in the military... or at least thats what I got out of his message.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 09:07 am My rap days are limited as I was pumping death metal from the day I was born (even though it didn't exsist yet).
But, they consisted of...
Beastie Boys
N.W.A.
Ice Cube
Ice T
Cypress Hill
The Streets (recent liking - totally retarded in an awesome way)
Doctor Octagon (very violent, but different - I think maybe he needs pills, but is pretty unique imo)
House Of Pain
Linkin Park.... (haha, just kidding!!)
So basically, my hip hop/rap exposure was mostly mainstream, but I had my day and enjoyed it quite a bit. *thinks about rolling with his best friend in highschool, in his chevy luv with the 10" truck riders and 50w amp all sounding like doo doo chanting "walking in my big black boots"*
*edit* One more thing... and this is a big one for me (and also the reason I like eminem)... Honesty.
If you are a hardcore rapper singing about killing and slangin and rollin the hood, fine, if that is how your life is. What I do have problems with is the fakers who talk all that smack but have never really experienced it.
Same thing with many metal and hardcore bands. Suicide Suffer Death Murder KILL KILL!!! But actually they grew up on a 3500sqft house on the hillside, drive a nice car and work at the local coffee shop while taking art classes in college paid for by their parents.
Basically, be honest, don't try to fit the mold of what may be the standard by spewing crap you know nothing about.
Apr 05, 2007 09:17 am Quote:
I'll chill, just don't call me ignorant for having parents serving in the military... or at least thats what I got out of his message.
He was expressing his opinion just as bluntly and to the point as you expressed yours, if you can't take it, don't dish it out, that's all I'm sayin.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 09:28 am To Neo, Coolo never called you ignorant for having folks in the military. He called you ignorant for your views on rap, which inlcuded rappers being the stupidest people alive and that none of them write their own music. You generalized it as a whole, and to a guy who is a rap artist or heavy into it (coolo) I can see why he would find your statement ignorant. I don't think he was trying to harsh on your family whatsoever.
Can we all hug now. This Bytch Killa is tearing us apart!!! :( He's probably at home laughing right now.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 09:41 am Last but not least, everyone be nice to coolo, he's running a celeron :(
Apr 05, 2007 09:46 am Quote:
He's probably at home laughing right now.
Laughing, I would think, is very uncool and ungangsta...it might cost him some street cred.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Apr 05, 2007 10:55 am lol @ street cred.
Apr 05, 2007 11:04 am I am hoping that will be another term that coolo is surprised I know...being the white-bred suburban child that I am...
Apr 05, 2007 11:10 am i thought it was white-bread?
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Apr 05, 2007 11:13 am Since I'm a parent of 3 teenage girls I look at things differently now than I did when I was a kid (of course). I remember cranking up Ted Nugent's Double Live Gonzo album and my mom hearing it (haha, how could she not?). Let's just say she wasn't impressed by the language and content. Of course from my end it was, "come on ma, you gotta get with it". I now can see for myself why it made her feel uncomfortable. So with this being said the only music that I don't like now is music that makes me uncomfortable while listening with my kids. I don't care what genre it is. When I write music I always keep this in mind.
IMO, this whole thing isn't really about rap at all. It is about some guy coming here flinging **** and disrespect. If the guy was from a genre that I prefer and he made the same impression then I would take offence to them as well. Why should I help someone that has no respect for others?
Music should be something that you are proud of. It should make you feel good sharing it (performing). Of course I realise that sometimes music is telling some dark story of death, drugs and the like are out there in any genre. It should never be used to promote these terrible things in a positive way. Musicians have a responsibility. They should realise that they can have a huge impact on our youth.
Promoting violence in music is irresponsible.
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 11:53 am After re-reading my previous message, let me tell you something: I blew up. I guess it was heat of the moment jumpin on the band wagon type thing. This is my public apology.
My library consists of about 40% rap. You wont find any lil jon on there though.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 12:11 pm No Lil John?!?!?! Blaphemy!!
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Apr 05, 2007 12:23 pm neoific, from your post, i actually couldn't tell that your parents were in the military, i actually thought you were in the marines. Anyhow, mine was just a heated response to your heated response, and I'm going to go ahead and apologize for being so blunt there, as that's not my normal M.O.
and yeah, have pity on me, I am still running a 2.4GHz celeron or celery as my coworker likes to call it.
and hear, hear (or is it here, here)Cpt on the honesty bit. I couldn't say it any better.
neoificIdiot KidMember
Since: Sep 27, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 12:24 pm I'm too young ATM for the military. In my future, though.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Apr 05, 2007 12:26 pm lol - feels like there should be some kind of group hug goin' on.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Apr 05, 2007 12:36 pm Don't forget the 640MB o Ram, I didn't want to put that in the same post though. Seemed like too low a blow :)
Neo - gonna be a military man, much props from me. I actually regret never going into the military when I was younger and experiencing the travel, the brotherhood and the responsability.
Beerhunter, exactly!!! Nothing wrong with a lil man huggin to keep the spirits high :)
Man this post just turned out great. I only took one Bytch Killa to bring us all that much closer, who says one person can't make a difference. LOL
Apr 05, 2007 12:41 pm Quote:
who says one person can't make a difference
bahahahaha
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Apr 05, 2007 12:47 pm i guess i should update the profile but i'm actually up to 1.1 GB of RAM, not that I notice
any difference...
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Apr 05, 2007 03:07 pm hay coolo hit me up with an e-mail i have an early christmas present for you if you want a newer PC. It also depends on if i can get down to the bay area . i moved to a little town about 20 mile away from Sac.
Apr 05, 2007 03:50 pm 2.4 GHz isn't exactly draggin' ***.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Apr 05, 2007 04:00 pm celery hurts the equation, but it still should be quite workable.
