name that effect....if you can

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Member Since: Jan 19, 2005

Hey, I have been mixing hip hop vocals for a couple years now and there is a certain effect that I am trying to recreate. Its kinda hard to explain but a lot of the mainstream rap has it. It sounds almost like the lead vocal is over processed, it sounds like there is some sort of light grain distortion applied to it....let me know if you have heard what I am hearing and how that could be recreated...thanks.
-C

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Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Feb 14, 2007 09:44 pm

Vocoder .

Is there a prize for this contest ?


Oh, and you can produce that with a vocoder plugin/effect, like the one they have in Fruity Loops .

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Since: Jan 19, 2005


Feb 14, 2007 10:00 pm

Thanks, any suggestion on a vst or directx vocoder?
-C

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Feb 14, 2007 10:02 pm

I've only messed with the one in FL, but someone may have a clue 'round here .

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Feb 14, 2007 10:13 pm

heh Here's one with an epilepsi disclamer ! wtf ?

www.vocoder-plugins.com/more3.html

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Since: Jan 19, 2005


Feb 14, 2007 10:24 pm

wow, thats some crazy ****, not lookin to put the audience into seizures, haha

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Feb 14, 2007 10:40 pm

Here's one from MDA, who do no-frills freebies:

www.kvraudio.com/get/803.html

Also the effect may be an auto-tune, which has become popular lately. Sometimes they really exaggerate it, like in that song Cher did a few years ago. Or Kid Rock had a song with that exaggerated auto tune effect in it.

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Feb 15, 2007 12:20 pm

hmm, name a popular song that you hear it in, and maybe that will help people come up with a more definite answer...

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Feb 15, 2007 12:34 pm

it could be just distortion too, like the overdrive type of clipping. but too much, so the track is pretty fuzzy.

lenny kravitz comes to mind, he seems to do this on a few different songs. (though I can't remember which one's at the moment)


*edit* i think american woman has this effect on it.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 15, 2007 05:02 pm

lenny kravitz's 'fly away' or whatever it's called, sounds like he uses a light flanger on that one mostly.

Typo Szar
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Since: Jul 04, 2002


Feb 15, 2007 09:03 pm

One of my friends whos in a label band uses his outboard preamp, and cranks the gain until the signal distorts. this gives kind of the effect ur talking about. And u could add flanger and such to it, i think if u do this though, ull need to put ur compressor after to make sure its an effect more than a clipping signal.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Feb 18, 2007 01:34 pm

Quote:
sounds like he uses a light flanger on that one mostly


alotta times a god solid doubble track performance will yeald that sound...i've noticed it alot in the hip-hop world. the trick is to pronounce everything EXACTLY the same way on each take. i pan each performance hard L/R and choose which of the two i like best, and use that as the 'main' vocal, then i just 'salt and pepper' it with the doubble...the goal is not to get two distinct sounds, but to get them to gel together as one. then just pan back to mono...if the vocalist is good, it'll sound real nice.

Ne'er ate 'er
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Since: Apr 05, 2006


Feb 18, 2007 01:47 pm

Does anybody make a plugin that mimics tape distortion? The Cars' producer used that to great effect. Not that I'd use it. Heh. Tape seems like so long ago. Ya know, we could also use a good wire recorder plugin.


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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 18, 2007 01:55 pm

Magneto can...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 19, 2007 09:01 pm

Yep Steinberg Magneto was probably the very first one. Used it for years and still do on occasion. The newest one is from PSP called the Vintage Warmer. It goes way beyond simple tape saturation though.

I think there were a few freebies on KVR as well that did simple tape saturation.

I actually owned a piece of hardware in the early digital days before Magneto and the like were out that would do the saturation thing. Really cool piece of gear until I found Magneto of course.

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