Aug 12, 2005 05:50 am like this one - i was thinking
the Nady GEQ215 Dual 15-Band Graphic Equalizer
wouldn't that act just like an amp ? with gain and EQs ?
Stereo Recording + Preamps
Posted on Aug 12, 2005 05:39 am
mcp
Member Since: Aug 12, 2005
ok i'll give this a shot
i thought about buying an 'MAudio Firewire Solo Audio Interface' to record onto my pc
however - to boost the sound and whatnot would require an amp or pre-amp of some sort
now here comes the problem - all my pedals are digital and work in stereo (ie. with panning, and phasing and such like)
to get this sound into the computer i would simply have to run the R and L outs into the Firewire Interface
BUT ! the amp i have only has guitar in and headphones out - so the sound will collapse to mono that way
so i thought how about buying a pod or something - but yet again (to my knowledge) they only have the single 'in' port and the sound will collapse again
so all i could think of was an equalizer or something with stereo ins and outs to go between the final pedal outs and the interface, to act as an amp - but im not sure
sorry for the long post - but can anyone offer some solution to this ?
thank u v. much
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Aug 12, 2005 05:50 am like this one - i was thinking
the Nady GEQ215 Dual 15-Band Graphic Equalizer
wouldn't that act just like an amp ? with gain and EQs ?
Aug 12, 2005 09:52 am I don't think you'll need a preamp, if you're coming from a processor of some sort. They put out line level signal. Preamp is to bring up mic level (around .1volt) up to line level (around 1 volt). So you should be good already.
The item you mentioned has two 1/4" inputs in the back, so you could plug in your stereo signal there.
If I was to choose though, I'd find out if your processor(s) are compatible with the 2 channel spdif input on the device :
< snippet taken from zzsounds >
2 line inputs (1/4 in. unbalanced) on rear panel
Front-panel switch toggles front/rear inputs
2 line outputs (1/4 in. TRS balanced/unbalanced)
S/PDIF digital I/O (coax) with 2-channel PCM
< end snippet >
If you go into the solo as digital, then you won't have to convert D/A then convert back A/D to get into the solo, and computer.
If your not compatible for 2 channel, then use two analog cables right into the 1/4" ins, and you're set.
I wouldn't buy an EQ to act as a preamp. I'd just use your software for now, and learn the basics, get comfortable and play for awhile. Software EQs are quite powerful (alot are free too) and should cover most, if not all, of the ground that consumer EQs will cover.
Aug 12, 2005 11:31 am welcome to HRC aswell!
i'm thinkin' a few things here...
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all my pedals are digital and work in stereo
are you using more than one pedal at once? if not they ALL would have to have two inputs (stereo) and two outputs (stereo)....i know the bigger floor board types will have stereo out, which is fine....it is indeed very normal to turn a mono signal into stereo, that's not the hard part, KEEPING it stereo is the hard part, commin' out of your first pedal (and stay digital as much as possible) you need a definate stereo signal, then it (they) gotta go to a device that is expecting a stereo signal (2 inputs)
now in a this type of situation, ya can do two things.
1. send the stereo output to two inputs on your audio interface.
2. turn off the chorus/phase/flange and reverb (which usually 'stereoize' the sound) and add those after you record.
which is what i'd do....my effects on my computer for those type of effects, are much better on my computer.
i can prolly give ya more help if ya let me know exactly what gear you're using...ya can fill it out in your profile, which will lead to more detailed replys.
cheers!
wyd
Aug 12, 2005 02:47 pm cheers for the help guys
i use the line 6 stompbox modelers (which i think are great i dont care what other people say) which (apart from the dm4) all have stereo ins and outs
and yeah i carry the signal through each so that the stereo still comes out the final one
i've been playing geetar for like 3 years but i've only started trying to get my head round recording cus i was tired of going through the computer's line in (mic) !
i did use two converters (1/4 inch to RCA) so that the final pedal could interface with a stereo (with surround sound speakers) - but then i noticed that with distortion the sound is flat
thats part of the problem - i'd like to be able to have some medium through which i could record but also listen to through headphones while playing so i can hear the stereo effects - but obviously this cant be done with an amp
so i thought - by jove ! a line 6 pod ! that way i'll have an amp (modeler mind you) but be able to hear the stereo
BUT - it only has the one input - sooo - before i carry on -
could you put a pod or an amp even in before the pedals ? and would the tone carry through ? i never thought this would work but i read something online and someone said it could
but wouldn't the effects just be applied over the amp's tone ? or would it be preserved and carry through ?
NOW ! ! after all that - S/PDIF ! i wasnt sure what this was but am i right in thinking that its basically a digital version of two RCAs ? in that it works in stereo and preserves right and left input ?
sorry for all that writing and thanks v. much for the help guys so basically the questions i have are :
1) could a pod or amp go before the pedals and EQ the sound ?
2) is S/PDIF basically a digital two RCAs in one ?
the only way of ultimate stereo output that i can listen to in real time as its played is through these surround sound speakers i have - and so all i basically need is some manner of EQ between the geetar and the stereo
and for recording yeah i guess i could always the softwares options however i'd rather get the sound beforehand
i hope that made some sense and i know its really long but CHEERS ! none the less !
thank you
Aug 12, 2005 02:54 pm S/PDIF looks like RCA, and yes, it is two RCA's in one insofar as it carries both the left and right signal in one jack, however, S/PDIF is digital, RCA is analog, so you are right on there.
I have POD xt Pros for guitar and bass, and I gotta say, I am surprised there isn't an analog stereo input available on those...if your pedals have S/PDIF (not familiar with those myself) then that is your best bet, daisy chain all your effects via S/PDIF running it into the POD, then use that to record from...
Ya know, I dunno what POD you have, but if it also has sends and returns (the POD Pro's do) then I'd run the pedals through that effects loop...
Aug 13, 2005 08:03 am aaahh thanks everyone for understanding my confused gibberish - i dont have a pod yet by the way dB masters
ummm. . . . could i just ask what effects send and return actually is ?
im not sure and i only heard the term recently -
is it that you run your guitar into the pod pro through the guitar input on the front - then you hook up your pedals from; the effects send to the pedals then back to effects return ?
is that right ?
no my pedals dont have S/PDIF - they have 2 1/4 inch ins and outs
aww man this is great if this does what i think it does - thanks again for taking the time to read all my nonsense guys
sooo ! lemme see now . . . .
i would run the guitar into the guitar input on the pod would i ? and then run effects send through the pedals and back through the effects return ?
then the amp models would be applied, retaining the stereo of the pedals ?
then to record to the pc - i would use the two unbalanced analog outs to go into the firewire interface ?
if thats right i'm a very happy boy indeed
cheers !
Aug 13, 2005 08:13 am With the POD xt Pro service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear (not sure about the other models) you would simply run the "send" from the POD to your first pedal, then daisy chain the pedals one to another, the last pedal will be sent to the POD return...then the signal get sent through all of them...This type of situation is EXACTLY what the loops are for.
Aug 13, 2005 02:00 pm ah thank you my good man
i didnt know about all of that and now it seems that the pod pro is exactly what i want and need as it does everything
i do believe i will be purchasing one
cheers !
Aug 13, 2005 05:10 pm I thought the Solo had a pre-amp? Input 1 is XLR mic and input 2 is TS line-level for guitar?
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