Jun 04, 2005 12:56 pm I'd record them flat and EQ in the mix...just concentrate on compression while tracking...
Compressors 101
Posted on Jun 04, 2005 12:54 pm
noah56
Never luster
Member Since: Feb 08, 2005
I'm recording drums, 6 mics:
1. I have Two Aux Send/Returns
2. An Alt 3/4 Out
3. Two Dual Mono Compressors
4. A Dual Band EQ
My plan is to run both compressors in the Aux Send/Returns and the EQ through the Alt 3/4 Out, and into 2 Channel Inserts.... Ideally I want to be able to compress the kick, toms, snare, cymbals separately, and be able to eq the kick toms and snare as a group, and the cymbals as a group... Any ideas?
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Jun 04, 2005 12:56 pm I'd record them flat and EQ in the mix...just concentrate on compression while tracking...
Jun 04, 2005 12:59 pm If I want more control over each voice or drum though, wouldn't I want the Freqs separated? Or would this be a good idea to record two separate tracks, EQed separately then combined? Skipping the hard EQ altogether...
Jun 04, 2005 01:00 pm what happens if, when all recorded you want those frequencies back? I only EQ in the context of mixing, never tracking unless there are glaring problems.
Jun 04, 2005 01:01 pm You wouldn't use an EQ for lets say a HP or LP?
Jun 04, 2005 01:05 pm simply put, I don't EQ while tracking, I record everything flat and EQ while mixing. I capture the sound the artist wants as they give it to me.
Jun 04, 2005 01:05 pm yeah i'd eq the tracks after you record them...durring mixing....get each track seperate and dry to disk, then manipulate them.
Jun 04, 2005 01:08 pm i agree with dB and WYD. i try and get everything into my sequencer as natural as possible, then work with it in the mix. it's a lot of extra work for yourself if you decide you need to change the eq on the eq'd tracks....
Jun 04, 2005 01:09 pm Right on, and sorry to hear bout that club owner wyd00.... Sounds like he thought he was sitting on a gold mine short a shaft...
Jun 05, 2005 03:38 am I tend to track flat too, but sometimes i'll EQ while getting levels just to check things out and then take the EQ off when i press record. I find it puts my mind at ease that i'm getting something that fits with the tune as it currently stands and also gets the most natural tone to HD.
Jun 05, 2005 04:10 am I track all flat. Add EVERYTHING at mix stage - NOTHING goes in the PC other than the VAMP which is what its for anyway.
Then ye can add/experiment til its perfect.
Coco.
Jun 06, 2005 11:34 am yeah, if you're itching to compress...i'd check into usin' 'em as limiters, and set to very quick times and put the threshold at -1...
----WARNING----
this could kill the impact of the drums! hehe i got carried away with a limiter on the 2bus this weekend, burned 6 cd's and didn't listen to it....basically, it castrated the drums....*sigh* good learning experiance though!
Jun 06, 2005 11:42 am I think that the trick to limiting without affecting the dynamics much is to remember not not set any makeup gain, or any additional input or output gain. Just set up a limit so that the signal does not clip and do not add any makeup gain. This keeps the dynamics intact and only chops off any transient spikes in signal level.
Jun 06, 2005 12:04 pm hmmmm!!!! yeah i ran a slower/softknee with the treshold at like -4 with 4db's of makeup, right into another faster/hardknee right at -1 with 1db of makeup!!!!!!!!
for some reason i can't hear it on my monitors, but as soon as i put some earbuds from my mp3 player, i could tell immeadiately!!! the mix was sounding really well and i wanted to get it as hot as possible for the band. and didn't check it before i burned 6 copies and made an mp3!
DOH!
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