Feb 06, 2005 08:40 pm That was the best half time show I have seen in years, not a pretentious, showy stage full of garbage, good music by a good musician...
Kudos to the Super Bowl for not goin hype-crazy.
Oh, pretty wild game too...
Super Bowl Music - Your thoughts?
Posted on Feb 06, 2005 08:38 pm
guitar_jim
Czar of Cheese
Member Since: Jun 09, 2004
Well, being a huge Beatles fan and even a huger Paul McCartney fan, I thought that the half-time show was awesome! I hope I am still rockin' when I get to be Sir Paul's age. I watched it with my teenage boys, and even THEY had to admit that he was pretty good. (High praise!)
Great music that surely stands the test of time...and no exposed breasts!
Jim
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Feb 06, 2005 08:40 pm That was the best half time show I have seen in years, not a pretentious, showy stage full of garbage, good music by a good musician...
Kudos to the Super Bowl for not goin hype-crazy.
Oh, pretty wild game too...
Feb 06, 2005 08:50 pm didnt watch it im too dissapointed in Paul, for selling out so much. i remember when michael jackson got the rights to some of the beatles catalog and paul saying he was upset because revolution was about a revolution and not selling nike sneakers. well here we are and now he selling everything. just lame i will always love the beatles, this cant take that away. miss you john!!!!
Feb 06, 2005 09:27 pm i just love 'live and let die.' such an amazing song...and those fireworks along with it made for great spectacle.
Feb 06, 2005 09:41 pm I am so tired of hearing "sold out" I could just puke. I dunno how familiar people are with the concept of business, but you sell stuff to STAY IN BUSINESS. Paul McCartney has done things for popular music his entire career he has started trends and styles and wow...he deserves nothing but respect in my book.
"sold out" is such a over-used term it's gotten to be a HUGE pet peeve of mine when people use it...the last "sold out" discussion we had at HRC I think was about Bob Dylan if I recall...cuz his music is on a Victoria Secret commercial...
And don't feel "attacked" xtc, it's not directed at you personally, just the whole "so-and-so sold out" mentality. It's so silly in my opinion that somebody who is in business to sell music can sell out by selling music, that's just oxy-moronic...
Oh, and I am personally always thought Live and Let Die was a horrible song, I hated it even more after GnR destroyed it...yuk...but eh, not even my wife agrees with me on that...but the pyro's during the song were cool.
Feb 06, 2005 10:22 pm First Super Bowl halftime show that I've ever actually sat through.
Feb 06, 2005 11:10 pm What amazes me is how good Paul still sounds after all these years. I agree - really good show - enjoyed it quite a bit.
On the 'selling out' business. Paul doesn't need the money so he is not 'selling out'. Even for those struggling for $$ in the music business, selling out would, I suppose, mean not creating the kind of music that moves you and making commercial music instead to sell it. So if the non commercial music really still moves you, do both. Follow your passion AND do good commercial work to pay the bills to follow your passion. Truly not a mutually exclusive choice. Artists have been doing that for centuries.
I think those that claim others are 'selling out' are probably dealing with other issues....
Feb 06, 2005 11:36 pm I don't think Paul was selling anything. He was just up there rockin' out. He has paid his dues, and consequently he can do whatever he wants with his music and it's all right with me. Same goes for Dylan.
"Live and Let Die" is an awesome song. Name a Bond theme song that rocks more than that one.
Paul is not dead.
Feb 07, 2005 01:02 am I've never been a fan of Paul.
I'll tell ya what though, I was kind of supprised to hear a bouncing souls song in a pepsi commercial.
Feb 07, 2005 03:34 am db, to each his own, i guess. i think that song is unbelievable. now, *maybe* the first time i heard it (the gn'r version) i thought there was something cheesy about it. it sounds spy-action like somehow...not sure how. but what gets me is that ascending piano bit beneath 'you know you did...' etc. that chord he walks through is sooo strange. and i also like the little pause with the hint of the upcoming riff (da da daaa...say live and let..)---so evocative of something. and of course the tempo change.the whole song is just jarring to the nth degree. the only other song in my limited experience i find as weird is 'victim or the crime' by the grateful dead. jerry used to say he hated it because it was so 'angular' but it's just simply posessed by some weird feeling.
Feb 07, 2005 05:16 am I thought the show was great. I thought he was only going to play a medley or something stupid like that. Was it 4 songs? drive my car, get back, live and let die, let it be.
Live and let die is a great song. But is is kind of strange because mccartney just slammed three songs back to back that don't necessarily fit together (you know the reggae part and the faux metal part). Some huge beatles fan told me mcartney and lennon did that on a little riffs they had that were in the same key or something like that. He just puts a great melody over the top of it to make it flow. Other beatles songs that they maybe did that on, "dig a pony" "happiness is a warm gun". I like it. and thank god nobody on the TV mentioned last years "overhyped malfunction" or how some halftime shows have been...well...ahhemm...done poorly.
Sir Paul ripped it up.
I agree db, I am not a huge metallica fan, but I loved when jason newstead said "ya we sold out...every seat in the house" or some variation of that. Do you suppose all the nerds at Apple computers thought Bill Gate$ "sold out" when he made very "customer friendly" software?
Feb 07, 2005 06:40 am FunkDadyP, well put, Metallica is another victim of lame criticism I think, that is a good comparison. They get accused of being greedy, selling out and numerous other things because they are protecting their intellectual property. I found that to be very lame, I gave them more credit personally, for standing up for their convictions and protecting what is theirs.
If music is not your "passion" or "hobby" but becomes your career, what pays your bills, I think it is unfair to be chastized for protecting it, selling it and basically doing what you are supposed to with it.
Feb 07, 2005 06:54 am Well, I am one of THE biggest Beatles fans aroond and wished I'd watched this. THo, I will admit, I am NOT the biggest Paul fan aroond..John is another matter - he WAS king and still is for me.
But, other than McCartneys stupid nonsense aboot changing the whole "Lennon-McCartney" combo to "McCartney-Lennon" on the ones he deemed "his" which was WAY oot of order, specially since John wouldny have given a toss who said what and wrote it, anyway I digress, other than that, he is quite cool.
Around 10 years ago McCartneys fortune was (approx) £500,000,000 (thats 5 hundred million) which ye can double up in USD these days almost, "selling oot" is not for the money anyway. I think he is puttin himself aboot a bit but if I am honest, and I always am, its up to him and I just dont care too much for solo Paul. As I say, solo John is a WHOLE OTHER BALL GAME...legend in my eyes.
Point is, ye canny knock him. RE: Live & Let Die - being a big GNR fan, I didnt mind their version tho the song IMHO is one of the poorer Beatles songs. Totally incomprabale to Revolution btw and its not cause John wrote Rev, its just a top top song.
Anyways...go on to Macca. Im not a big fan, or even really much of a fan at all but the guys over 60 and still kickin ***...ye gotta respect that.
Coco
Feb 07, 2005 10:37 am not saying pauls a bad guy, hes a great human being, maybe sell out wasnt the right term here,paul was pissed when MJ let nike use Revolution and spoke out about it, but yet now he plays a half time show of the most commercially oriented even of the year?!?! so what has changed paul? or maybe im over critical.. anyways i love the beatles, ill never forget the first time i heard the white album back in the early eighties, it was at friends house who had 4 pairs of cheap a$$ speakers hooked up to his cheezy turn table, i think he was trying to get surround sound and he may have! it was a great experience!! then we started flipping revolution #9 backwards :) those were the days.
im always amazed when i hear indie bands in commercials and movies, shadowy men on a shadowy planet(taco bell), the magnetic fields (dont remember the company) the song was "desert island" and others i cant think of at the moment.
Feb 07, 2005 10:44 am Here is a thought, and I am not saying I have any knowledge of what goes on in anyone else's head, and barely understand my own, BUT, I have a couple of theories.
- Paul has spent the better part of his life making great music, now, in the autumn of his life has changed attitudes about how he wants his legacy to remain...and how he wants to retire from his career, and what he wants that music to accomplish.
or
- He is pissed (understandably so I might add) that Michael Jackson is the one with the right to sell it and not him or John...
Time, life experience and various other powers at play have changed a lot of my opinions about things from time to time, I think Paul is perfectly entitled to the same options :)
Feb 07, 2005 10:52 am It was fab. Nothing less.
By the way, anyone else notice the drum fill on "Let it be"?
Amazing.
Feb 07, 2005 11:13 am the halftime show was all i saw of the whole event....there were a few times where i thought the whole show (music atleaat) was pre-recorded, everything sounded almos "too" good, clean, and perfect. i was watching Paul like a hawk, and the bass line for "Drive My Car" was hoppin' but Pauls hands were hardley movin', this could be due to extremely efficent playing or whatever but there were other things....the cameras never stayed on the drummer...usually if i'm tryin' to spot a fake, the drummer is the one to give it away, and there was very little drummer on camera, and the overhead camera WAS outta sync with the music (coulda been the nature of the techonlogy)....then there was no "thank you" type talk inbetween songs, this mighta been just professionalism, gooin' from one song right into the next, but it was strange and steril....i seriously doubt it was pre-taped, but it was extremely tight, which i guess is a compliment. i thought "Live and Let Die" sounded more like the GNR version than Pauls. i'm not tryin' to bring down Paul or anything, but that's just what was gooin' through my head durrin' the Performance......and did they give every single person that was on the field a lighter????
peace
wyd
Feb 07, 2005 11:37 am Macca knows the bass line to "Drive My Car" inside out. Plus, how comfortable is he playing that Hofner? He rocked. The whole band were very tight (was it just me, or we're those guitar solos just aced?).
There seems to be a very tangible level of professionalism/musicianship that these "old folks" are at. You can just tell how much better they are than others who are not quite at that same level. Clapton has it, Sir Paul has it, James Taylor, ZZ-Top, Eagles, Prince......the list goes on. These guys are SO good. I thought the halftime "gig" was superb. Very tight. Of course, McCartney has been playing at that level for about forty years. That helps...
Feb 07, 2005 11:40 am I would highly doubt the show didn't have any backing track pre-recorded, it would be a nightmare to get a stage and sound system up and down in that time-frame for a totally live set set.
That said, I do think Paul does have one of the less-showy/more efficient playing styles of anyone I can think of, I like watching people like that, their fingers hardly move but the line is amazing...not like the late great John Entwistle, while one of the great rock bassists of all time, had like the sloppiest style I 've even seen...
Feb 07, 2005 12:30 pm You're right about the Ox. He was all fingers. Tony Levin comes to mind too....both brilliant bass players.
I love the understated players like Macca. Leland Sklar is another of the "fingers-hardly-move set", as is Timothy B. Schmidt, Greg Lake, Roger Glover, Sting, John McVie, Dusty Hill, Nathan East, Michael Anthony.....
As for a backing track..it's highly likely, but those boys had to play it sometime, and play it they did. What a band. I still have that "Let it be" drum fill haunting me.
Feb 07, 2005 02:20 pm Ah man, I hate backin tracks....the bind of a generation... :-(
Still, at least it wis Macca solo using tape rather than The Beatles (who may as well have since NOBODY could hear them for the screams!
Anyways..still a good bassist if nowt else I say. Not a big fan as I say but a good bassist indeed.
Coco.
Feb 07, 2005 02:22 pm Oh come on Coco, how do you expect anyone to set up a FULL live rig for a 5-song set that can get put up and torn down in the MINUTES they have to do it. You know better than that. For the Super Bowl, it's just the fun of the show, not a music statement...at least that's how I see it...stop taking it so seriously...it's only rock n roll...
Feb 09, 2005 08:58 pm You left out Frank Zappa in that list of understated players. He'd do practically the entire show sitting on a bar stool. Physically he "just sat there," but musically he was incredible.
"Great music that surely stands the test of time...and no exposed breasts!"
--> Yeah, but did you notice he took his jacket off, exposing his t-shirt? I was offended and had to avert my eyes.
Feb 10, 2005 03:20 am Hey dB
YOu are logistically and otherwise correct...Im just a purist! I see, make em rush on like something out of Benny Hill (you ever see that show?? hilarious) running roond like nuts, puttin up stacks, mics, drums, sound check AND play in 15-20 minutes!
Funny it would be! hehehe.
Aye, its only rock n roll....
Coco
Feb 20, 2005 02:21 pm I read a brief piece the next day, in USA Today I believe but not sure. It stated the show was indeed live, but a nightmare to get working. The rig was supposedly entirely wireless, to accomadate moving everything in and out without need to plug and unplug a multitude of wires. The writer stated the wireless rig was actually 2 wireless rigs per player, singer incase of failure.
Now I'm not sure I buy that it really was. Although watching the guitar solo's and such did seem he was playing absolutely spot on.
But that said, I gotta agree with dB that I find it a huge undertaking to get a live rig set up, and torn down in less then ahlf an hours time.
But indeed, it was the first halftime show I have seen in many years that I actually sat through and enjoyed completely.
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