Sep 26, 2004 09:14 pm I'll keep my ears open for ya Jason. Right now I am pretty well handled project wise, but I'll keep ya in mind of something does arise.
Where abouts in MN are ya?
Anyone want/need help? (shot in the dark)
Posted on Sep 17, 2004 01:16 pm
Jason H.
Jack of all trades master of ___
Member Since: May 28, 2004
Just to let anyone or everyone know. If you think my recording setup is sufficient to help with editing, mixing, or anything that has to do with the tedious audio work...I am not doing anything real serious at this point, so any serious people out there wanting some help in the audio modification department or if you're sick of working solo...I won't charge anything (a credit maybe) and if I don't know about it I will read about it till I get my fill (as always)...I am in Minnesota so this applies to you too 'dB'/'Noize' (just in case).
View my profile to see my 'gear' if interested.
Later...Jason
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Sep 26, 2004 09:14 pm I'll keep my ears open for ya Jason. Right now I am pretty well handled project wise, but I'll keep ya in mind of something does arise.
Where abouts in MN are ya?
Sep 26, 2004 09:46 pm I have a question about your Korg Triton.
How do you like it? I'm in the market to get me some sort of rack mount modular and looking at the Korg $1500 (maybe $900 on ebay). I need something with some great pianos, great vox/string sounds, and a good Leslie organ sound. You know, not asking much :) Just wondering how you liked it.
Sep 27, 2004 11:27 am Sorry folks, I didn't see anyone reply to this one, so sorry for my late reply....
Thanks Noize...I am in East St. Paul about 20 mins from the Wisconsin border. Even if its the tedious stuff like running fades or doing some normalizations, I won't care.
Hey vdalehubbard...I like the Triton. If your looking for a nice "true as can be" grand piano-type sound...the piano sounds on the Triton are nothing to write home to mom about...but the organs are good and the strings are good. I do alot with the string sounds on my board. Keep in mind I have the Triton LE...Korg says it has the same sound engine as the regular Tritons but I think its watered down a tad. Overall I like it. Feel free to keep asking
Sep 27, 2004 11:51 am No kidding, East St. Paul, eh? I went to high school in West St.Paul on Crusader Avenue, spent a lot of time on Robert Street, my first band practiced on Belvidere in the bassists basement.
We are now less than 30 miles apart...kinda silly to not have some drinks some night...
Sep 27, 2004 12:17 pm Well I was going to isolate a similar message to you about offering help thru the contacts page being I noticed you are from here. But I figured it would be better to post to save you a possible second or two reading an email you could do without. That and more people on the forums.
Problem with me is I'm too hungry but don't know what I want to chase...so in the mean time I mess around recording tidbits here and there.
It's like going to the fridge looking for something filing to eat but you don't know what ya want, so you end up snackin on some doritos or something.
Yeah dB holler at me sometime...as you can see I am usually 'here'...
Sep 27, 2004 02:22 pm hey jason.
olddog is gonna help me with my guitar problem. if you are into that i could use a second opinion, too. i'm working on a hard rock sound--i suppose the wall of sound guitar feel. i've been working on getting an ok guitar sound forever. i will have a rudimentary mix and the isolated guitar tracks by late tonight, if you would be interested in looking at those guitar tracks (there are 2 layers, in stereo, for a total of 4 wav files) and maybe do some processing on them so i can take note of how to correct the badness. in a car stereo the guitars sound like faceless static. the individual chords are very hard to hear. i am doing something very wrong. for all i know it's the patches i'm using (though they sound fine in isolation and the whole track sounds 'ok' but not great in headphones.) besides some multiband compression and general EQ, i am trying to figure out how to cut out a hole for my vocal frequencies. so that would be another thing i might want to talk about.
p.s. vdalehubbard, i have a triton too and i would have given the same analysis jason did. triton does have a pianos extension card of some kind, however, so for all i know it's capable of some great pianos for a few extra dollars. (i've never heard that card.)
Sep 27, 2004 04:33 pm Well I look at it this way. I am always up for a challenge, I like to tinker with sounds and see how they can be processed. I have worked with guitars more recently than anything else. If you want to send me the .wav files I will be more than happy to take a pass at it.
If you mean "wall of sound" in the same way as its used to describe Metallica's Black album guitar layers, then I know what you are trying to achieve.(According to them it took alot of EQ).
We can coordinate when & how you want to send the files over. You'll have to send me something to help me get them arranged properly, sync-wise. I would then burn it "as-is" and try it in different speakers to see what could be done...
I appreciate the inquiry forty, I'll be on the standby.
Sep 27, 2004 04:49 pm hey jason.
the black album is a fine sound to shoot for. there's actually a whole range of guitar sounds i would be happy with. i'm not that particular, as i like many kinds of distortion. it's just been that everything i've tried doesn't sit well in the mix. so if we do this, i would suggest making some simple alterations that i could learn to mimic so that i can get the sound next time. multiband compression and eq would be the way, i would assume?
what do you mean about sending something to sync them up?
Sep 27, 2004 05:09 pm I picture 4 seperate guitar sounds playing a song, if one layer is out of whack with the rest, then the song or riff os going to be off...
I just want to make sure when I import them into my program that they are all in sync with each other.
Sep 27, 2004 05:20 pm hmm so how would we do that?
i use cubase but you're using audition.
the only idea that i have is that i could try grabbing the 'handles' on the wav in cubase and extend the wav all the way back to the beginning of the song (since they start in the middle and in odd places). then i could export that first set of wavs.
this would mean you would have a verse (no guitars) and the first chorus (which is short) and you could focus on the chorus, and screw the rest of the song, because i'll just mimic the settings you've applied on the full mix. you'll get:
1. a mixdown of drums, clean guitars (no work needed on those) and other instruments up till the end of the first chorus. this file'd be the background mix as one wav.
2. the four separate guitar wav files, which will be as long as the background file.
just drop all that into your sequencer and it should line up...
Sep 27, 2004 06:10 pm Yeah, something like that...
I am 90% sure I get your drift...
Just so I have a way of making sure everything is in line. Maybe one full master of everything mixed down should be sent so I have a refernce of what it all sounds like together...
That might help too, if that in fact works.
Sep 27, 2004 07:59 pm it works. i just tested it. basically: every wav file you'd be using is exactly the same length from start to finish. drop them into your sequencer and they automatically line up. it's easy to hear that they do line up too: its a clean verse with a drum fill-lead-in to a distorted chorus. the guitars crash in on the one beat. but i dont think you'll need to worry about this, because i think any sequencer will line up those wavs evenly since theyre all the same length.
so i have the files ready, as mp3's. only potential problem is that i mixed down the mono guitar tracks in stereo by accident. is that a problem or could you use them in this form anyway? i never really understood why they 'had' to be mono anyway.
i have the guitar tracks themselves both panned as i had them, and also versions that are centered so you could position them yourself if you want.
each clips is maybe a minute long. i just mixed down the song and the clips up to the end of the first chorus.
Sep 28, 2004 02:43 pm *gleefully mimics the chicken that used to be a frog*
Sep 28, 2004 03:34 pm Good Deal!
Just let me know when you want to send those over. We'll see if we can build this wall ;)
Later!
Sep 28, 2004 08:45 pm Hey Jason, indeed we are very close. I am only about 10 minutes from dB, used to be only about 2 minutes then he up and moved farther west. Bigger house, better studio room and all that.
A beer soon does sound good indeed seeing as we are that close, and besides that dB and I havent been out for a bit now and its about time I do believe.
Noize
Sep 28, 2004 10:07 pm I will admit I am not a drinker, but I do make exceptions. I'll keep on the lookout if you two wanna set something up. A cold brew, new faces and some studio talk would make it a good night for me.
The subtle things in life is what I enjoy. That and 4 HD Pro Tools systems strapped together.
Later boys!
Sep 29, 2004 05:49 pm i'm ready jason. let me know how you want to transfer files.
Sep 29, 2004 06:09 pm well since I havent paid for more storage....
I am limited to 4MB I think for my MSN account you would send to if you clicked 'email' under my posts.....so if its bigger than 4Mb's
Send half to [email protected] and the other to [email protected]
Try the whole 9 yards to EvilMan first tho...
Later Forty!
Sep 29, 2004 08:33 pm ok, they're sent.
lemme know if you have any problems receiving them. and in my profile i've uploaded a file named juesremix.mp3, featuring alterations made by HRC member jues to an older track i once was working on. whatever he did to make those guitars crunch out like that, well...i'd like to learn how to do that. that's sort of a sound i'm coveting right now.
thanks jason!
:)
Sep 29, 2004 10:14 pm Ok Forty I think I got the files ok, but I haven't listened to 'em yet...I can't wait to dig my nails into it. I'll get in touch with you via email to let you know what's going on.
Thanks Forty'!
-J
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