my guitar sound...
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Posted on Sep 11, 2003 08:41 pm
Jason
Member Since: Feb 17, 2003
i am getting a big bass sound when i hand mute my guitar. i know that it does this with just about any amp, but how do i make it so that it will not be so loud. it really sticks out in my recordings. what i did was put some hard eq on the frequency that was making the sound, but should i have to do this?
this is how i have it ran:
guitar to a marshall half stack
that mic'd with a sm57
ran into the behringer mx2442a
into the delta 44.
here is a link to one of the generic made up on the spot sound just so you can hear what i am experiencing. i have put a lot of eq on it, so it isnt as bad. the part that you need to listen to is towards the end, starting after the pause in the guitar part.
it is the only song i have on my page. i just signed up on nwr. it is called mixdown mp3.
www.nowhereradio.com/arti...422&alid=-1
thanks
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Sep 11, 2003 09:05 pm I don't notice a problem in the recording, myself. I tend to like the bass you get from palm muting, but I can understand why you might not like it. I don't think there's any other way to change it other than eq or multiband compression.
JasonMember
Since: Feb 17, 2003
Sep 11, 2003 09:10 pm ok, thanks. i am just playing around to get ready for a full band recording. i dont want that bass sound to get muddied up with the bass guitar or bass drum. do you think that the guitar sound is good enough for a demo quality cd?
thanks
don't go by the guitar playing itself, but the quality. i just played a few cords in that recording.
Sep 11, 2003 09:16 pm Well, I think the playing sounds good, too :)
It sounds like it could use some EQ. Maybe a boost in the mids somewhere (Or a nice open curve there, maybe). Where do you have the mic placed by the speaker cone? I usually mic it off to the side, not right in the middle of the cone. the middle of the cone seems more harsh on the ears. If there's no compression on it, compression can also help.
This question should really be answered by Jues... He's the one to ask about this kind of thing, I just like to think I know what I'm talking about-- He actually does :)
JasonMember
Since: Feb 17, 2003
Sep 11, 2003 09:24 pm lol
i have the mic a little off to the side. there is no compression. i just have it eq'd to take out some of that bottom while palm muting. should i compress before or after recorded? i have a autocom pro, which i planned on using that for vocals and acoustic. if i do it after recorded, do i somehow run it back out into the compressor, or just use the software?
thanks for your help
Sep 11, 2003 09:37 pm I would say just use software if you've already recorded it, unless you find that the autocom pro sounds a lot better. I would recommend compressing before recording (with the autocom) if possiible, though. Outboard compression usually sounds best (and allows you to get your recording volume higher) unless you spend a lot on a plug-in. If you want to compress after recording by using the Autocom, just send the signal back through the compressor as you said. hook it into the delta's outs and back into the ins and record it to a new track. Delete the old one if you like the sound of the compressed track.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Sep 11, 2003 10:10 pm What I'm hearing at the end doesn't sound like it's really coming from the guitar. Sounds more like a low-mid frequency feedback resonance for lack of a better term. The rest of it sounds pretty good to me, but I do hear what your talking about at the end.
I'd look at where/how you have the amp positioned in the room (try moving it to another spot), check the mike for any possible feedback, and if you have the amp cranked up pretty good don't get the pickups of your guitar too close or pickups pointed at the amp.
Sep 12, 2003 08:33 am i am in another room than my amp is. the amp is in a drywall room with other gear such as drums and guitar cases. it's not feedback. it just happens when i palm mute. im sure that all guitar players know what i am talking about. when i palm mute, it makes a deep bass frequency. It is fine for live, but for recording, i need to supress it somehow.
thanks
jason
MinkusMazBane of All ExistenceMember
Since: Mar 27, 2003
Sep 12, 2003 11:36 am i usually roll off my guitars at somewhere between 250Hz and 300Hz to make room for the lower instruments. i love palm muted stuff. maybe you could bring your hand closer to the bridge so that it mutes it less, but it also depends on how you EQ your amp. don't cut all the mids.
Sep 12, 2003 01:49 pm i have a marshall mg100hdfx half stack. i eq the overdrive with the bass around 2o'clock, mids around 12o'clock, and the highs around 12 with the contour at 12. THe gain is around 3o'clock. This is near one of the suggested settings that marshall gives in the manual. should i eq it differently?
thanks
jason
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Sep 12, 2003 01:54 pm tried dumping the bass on the amp right down, the eq'ing it back up artificially after?
dunno if it'd work , but thatd what i'd try next, personally...
Sep 12, 2003 07:08 pm I would say bring the bass down on the amp a bit and bring the mid up a few notches.
MinkusMazBane of All ExistenceMember
Since: Mar 27, 2003
Sep 12, 2003 07:11 pm see what you get if you bring down the gain some too.
JasonMember
Since: Feb 17, 2003
Sep 12, 2003 09:52 pm ok
i will try that out guys.
thanks
BrunoThe Quiet MindedMember
Since: Jan 01, 2003
Sep 14, 2003 06:02 pm have you tried to use a multiband compressor with a high compression ratio in the lows? that might help
JasonMember
Since: Feb 17, 2003
Sep 14, 2003 06:18 pm how do i go back into a compressor after it has been recorded? i am running the outs of the delta into channels 17 and 18 (stereo channel) for monitoring. do i run them into 2 mono channels and apply compression to each channel? i dont understand how to run just the guitar sound back out. it is recorded in track 2 in cep.
thanks
