Sep 08, 2003 10:04 pm Is it possible to use my other sound card as the output or do i have to run the speakers/or headphones from the output of my breakout box?
New Delta 44 / no sound
Posted on Sep 08, 2003 09:33 pm
Zop
Member Since: Sep 02, 2003
I just installed a new delta 44 along side the current sound blaster live card in a Pentium 2 400 mhz, 130 mb RAM , 20 gig HD, running WIN 2000.
It went in fine and I am really excited to get going but I cant get the sound to go above -30 and I cant hear it through my pc speakers. I messed with it for about 5 hours on and off.
I tried with my guitar going into Input 1, also ran it into my new preamp then into input 1. The meter in the sound mixer only goes to around - 30 and the same with my recording software (Sound Forge 6.0) The levels are very low. When I used the preamp cranked, I got it up there to -3 but only records in mono or If I select the sorce as Delta 1/2 then it records only left in stereo.
And I can not hear any of this through my pc speakers. I have never installed a sound card so I am new to this. I'm used to just plugging in and hitting record in Sound Forge and being able to hear what I play on my headphones.
Do I have to run a cord from the output of the break box to the input of my old sound card. lol, that dont sound right ?
So My 3 problems I think are
1. Sound levels recording low
2. Recording in mono
3. can't hear anything until after I record it,
Sorry for my ignorance to all of this, and this has probably been answered before I just couldnt find it, but I hope somone can help. I am really bumming out.
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Sep 08, 2003 10:04 pm Is it possible to use my other sound card as the output or do i have to run the speakers/or headphones from the output of my breakout box?
Sep 08, 2003 10:16 pm You could certainly use your sb for output, but it sounds like you just haven't gotten everything setup right in the software that came with new delta. things like assigning the outputs and gain levels etc.
Dan
Sep 08, 2003 10:48 pm Does anyone use WIN 2000, or know the proper settings I need. I read the Manual and I cant get it right. Thanks !!!!!
Sep 08, 2003 10:59 pm And the signal being so weak ? Could that be the driver or mabey my 1/4 cord, but I tried 2 different ones.
Sep 08, 2003 10:59 pm #2:
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only records in mono or If I select the sorce as Delta 1/2 then it records only left in stereo.
this is normal since each input in mono. you have four in and four out and each group (1/2 or 3/4) is configurable as a stereo pair.
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Do I have to run a cord from the output of the break box to the input of my old sound card?
no, you have to run a pair of cables from the Delta Outs 1/2 (the two on the far left) into whatever equipment you're monitoring with, be it a mixer, a headphone amplifier, powered monitors or another form of amp. Now that you have two soundcards they will perform independantly of one another. In otherwords, you can't record on the Delta while monitoring that same input from the Sound Blaster. Doesn't work that way. Describe how you'd *like* to have you system set up and I'll describe how you should do that.
as for #1 "sound levels recording low"... hmm. got me. Sounds like a hardware issue to me. Something wrong with your gear, not the Delta. I have no idea what that could be
Sep 08, 2003 11:50 pm Thanks, Big help Jamie !!
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"this is normal since each input in mono. you have four in and four out and each group (1/2 or 3/4) is configurable as a stereo pair"
So how do I get it in Stereo by just plugging into in 1 ? Its a setting in the Delta software right?
I want to run my Gretsch guitar into effects pedals, to preamp and record into Sound Forge 6.0 while monitoring with a pair of good sony headphones.
Can I just plug the 1/4 end of the headphones into out 1? Is that still stereo?
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"no, you have to run a pair of cables from the Delta Outs 1/2 (the two on the far left) into whatever equipment you're monitoring with, be it a mixer, a headphone amplifier, powered monitors or another form of amp"
How do I do this if I only have one set of monitors?
What is the point in having two Soundcards?
Do I need a set of cables with 4 males on one end and one male on the other end to go from each soundcard to my pc monitors ? or uhh... Im confused, sorry Im new to this so I'm sure these questions are pretty stupid to you. LOL I really apreciate your help. You should be getting paid for this.
My Wife and daughter play games and stuff and I didnt want to mess up the way she does things. I'll have to get them a new one and keep this piece of crap to myself someday.
Sep 09, 2003 12:06 am Quote: "as for #1 "sound levels recording low"... hmm. got me. Sounds like a hardware issue to me. Something wrong with your gear, not the Delta. I have no idea what that could be"
Under Windows Audio properties, what do I need to have the recording and playback mixer devices set to. I changed them around thinking the recording properties should be set for Delta 44. There is Delta 44 1/2, 3/4, and Multi. Then the old one I used. I used to use the line in recording volume to adjust the input sound. But now I am not sure. Thank you very much for your time.
ZOP
Sep 09, 2003 12:23 am Quote:
So how do I get it in Stereo by just plugging into in 1 ?
is the signal even stereo? unless you're using some kinda reverb processor or something then your guitar signal will be mono. so you need to make sure your recording software is recording mono. for example, i want to record my guitar in Cakewalk v9: Lets say that mic is panned center on my mixer and i've got both outputs (left and right) going into my Delta Ins 3/4. I arm a track and tell Cakewalk to record only the left side of In 3/4 so that way it records a mono file. Then when all is said and done I can pan the track anywhere I want it.
if it's mono, record it mono. if you want to record stereo you'll need to use a pair of inputs (1/2 or 3/4)
[quote]Can I just plug the 1/4 end of the headphones into out 1? Is that still stereo?
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no, it's balanced or unbalanced mono, the same as above goes for the outputs. you must use a pair. 90% of the time I send Outs 1/2 into my mixer to monitor on headphones. I like to assign Outs 1/2 as "monitor mixer" in the "pathcbay/router" tab of the Delta control panel. That lets you hear all 8 channels at once.
Don't plug you cans straight into the Delta. The signal is too hot and we can't be responsible for anything that happens if you do. As for the intricacies of having two soudncards, well it can tricky. Sometimes I have both soundcards (a Delta 44 and a SoundBlaster Live) both going into my mixer, but sometimes I just can't avoid unplugging something or another.
Sep 09, 2003 12:28 am Quote:
Under Windows Audio properties, what do I need to have the recording and playback mixer devices set to
i dont' even bother with this. Any good recording app overrides the Windows default and does whatever you've got that specific app set up to do. I use Cakewalk, WaveLab and FruityLoops, and they each have their own prefferences and properties to be set. They all ignore thw windows defaults. The only time I use the Windows Multimedia Properties (as they're called in Win98se) is for games and stuff that *do* look at the windows defaults. i have to go in there and toggle between "SB Live WaveOut" "WaveOut 1/2 Delta-44" and "WaveOut 3/4 Delta-44" all the time, depending on however i have my mess of cables wired up at any given point.
Sep 09, 2003 01:40 am yeah soundforge has a tab in its options that allows you to set whatever device is being used for recording and playback. do some 'splorin, lucy!
Sep 10, 2003 10:07 pm okokok...now I'm curious. My headphones have volume knobs for each ear. Can I monitor in stereo direct from the breakout box if I find a stereo 1/4" adaptor to plug my earphones into? Like an adaptor that is 2 x 1/4" male to 1 x 1/4" stereo female?
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Or, maybe this would be a good application for that line mixer. Is it a line-level output coming from the outs? If so then maybe I could send outs 1/2 into the line mixer and plug my headphones into that mixer.
sorry, just thinking out loud. er, in print.
Sep 11, 2003 02:41 pm That would work perfectly (option #2, that is). The output is line level.
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