Mar 22, 2012 12:44 am I'm down. I won't hog the mix this time if someone else wants to have a crack at it. I'll do bass...
another collab?
Posted on Mar 22, 2012 12:00 am
Bigbluesman
Quasimojo
Member Since: Nov 08, 2010
Hi fellas...another collaboration? Anyone interested? Ideas? How about some vocals this time? Horns? Spoons?...lol
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Mar 22, 2012 12:44 am I'm down. I won't hog the mix this time if someone else wants to have a crack at it. I'll do bass...
Mar 22, 2012 11:35 am lol....cool db ! you got it all figured out?
Quickxkid, you did a great job with the mix...is there anyone else who is good with mixing like you, and would do it?
Mar 22, 2012 12:17 pm If no-one else wants to take a stab at drums, you know I'm down. I feel like I shafted someone out of their own opportunity last time, so I by all means.... drummers... jump in!!
Mar 22, 2012 04:04 pm If you like I will step up for mixing this one
Mar 22, 2012 05:01 pm I'll express interest (again) in joining the project and then inevitably fail to deliver (again).
Mar 22, 2012 05:29 pm I've got some side projects coming up soon, but I'm game. Also, Krakli recently made their S3O organ synth thing freeware, but otherwise, I've got wurlitzer type sounds, typical e-piano sounds, and more softsynths than you can shake a stick at.
My most recent synth is TubeOhm's Alpha-Ray, which I decided to plink down the 7 bucks to unlock the effects section of the synth (technically also the only synth I've bought). It is a prettttttty sounding softsynth. And a new version of the Tyrelle N6 is out (U-He, known for Zebra, Zebra2, and Diva) which is a killer freebie. The new version added a chorus effect, which supposedly was based off of Diva's chorus.
Eh, enough on the soft-synths though.
(I also ordered 1 of each of the little korg monotrons. I plan to daisychain them together and/or possibly run my R3 or Miniak through them)
My new mixer and the 'trons should be getting here today or tomorrow. Ordered a 4-pack (5th for free) of those MoreMe headphones for tracking, and those will get here tomorrow probably. I wanted a cheap durable headphone, and those seemed to fit the bill. Sure, they're not senns or AT's or Sonys, but they should work fine for the intended purpose, and I understand they isolate pretty decently.
Just gotta figure out where I'm gonna move my towers of books to make room for the stuff. I've still got mics/stands/cables to order lol. Stands will probably live in the trunk though. :D
Mar 22, 2012 09:33 pm Cool. Colabs are fun! Quincy, you gotta get in on it this time!
Mar 22, 2012 10:45 pm Man, I totally slept on the last one. I can't play any instruments though... maybe a tamborine?
Worse comes to worse, maybe I could try vocals... although I suspect I'm going to be like quincy... express interest and not come through.
Mar 23, 2012 08:26 am Cool fellas .. no pressure...it took a year to get our first one done. we got...
Quickxkid on bass
Beer hunter on the mix...intruments as well?
db on mandolin... :o or whatever you want. :)
Hippie on drums
J-bot on just about anything you can imagine
quincy on guitar
coolo on ..whatever you want to try
we need a genra .. ideas..something we can all feel.
I guess we still have that 4 shared account.
very cool fellas...I'm getting that excited feeling like I had on the last ones.
Mar 23, 2012 10:38 am @ quincy: Too funny! =)
@ BBM: Can't go wrong with something in the vain of "How many more times" (Led Zep I). Driving blues/rock with plenty of room for all these instruments to join in. Wanna give JBOT a workout, write something along the lines of "No Quarter." LOL!!! I only use Led Zep as a reference cause, well, they pretty much wrote a song that fits every genre of music. Love 'em or hate 'em, they were gifted musicians.
Mar 23, 2012 11:45 am I will probably add some color with some guitar as well.
Mar 23, 2012 11:55 am OK Beer...yea Hippie ...based on a cool lick...
Mar 23, 2012 06:48 pm I would be good for adding little bits of production. I'm not a skillful guitar player, but I am pretty good at picking out appropriate parts. What I'm saying is that I think it's probably best to plan on having someone better that I committed to the rhythm/lead stuff.
As for genre, what about a kind of rockabilly swing? I could see myself writing some lyrics and doing vocals over something like that. Be afraid...hah
Mar 23, 2012 07:21 pm Also, did we use a metronome last time? I'd love to use one of them,
Mar 24, 2012 05:55 am I'm not really a skilled keyboardist either. :D
*ducks*
It's all good though, bro.
Also, rockabilly......my fingers are going to f-ing hate you all xD
I'll manage though. Just hope I can get my chops up to snuff. Rockabilly is not a slow beat, hah.
Mar 27, 2012 07:16 pm Has anyone started writing for this? If not, I'll start working on a melody tonight. I'll do some kind of draft with a metronome and post it up if no one is opposed. I'm going to post a file with the click track in with the guitar waveform, so that even if someone can't get the metronome to line up with what's already been done, they can still follow with the click track 'glued' to my scratch track. No excuses then! HA!
After I post the acoustic guitar rockabilly song, that'll give us all something solidly on time to work with. We'll ditch my guitar part as soon as someone steps up with 'real' guitar work. I've definitely decided I want to be apart of this, this time and I also definitely want to make sure we're on tempo...
Did I mention that tempo is going to be really important to me on this project?
@Quick: You don't have access to an URB do you? Would be sweet to get that instrument on the recording.
Is anyone camera shy? If you video tape your take and upload it, my girlfriend could edit it and synch it into a music video. Any takers?
Mar 27, 2012 08:39 pm Video sounds awesome. Have at 'er Quince. Lets get the show on the road!
Oh and write down the progression for us hacks!
Mar 29, 2012 08:23 am Been away from HRC for some time...randomly popped in last evening and read all about your new collab. Sounds interesting! Having participated in a few legendary HRC collabs, I feel the itch again. Any room for another self-professed hack? I could throw a little rockabilly guitar into the mix, and even some harmony vox.
dB...seriously? Mandolin? Next you'll be running off with the Yonder Mountain String band!
Mar 29, 2012 08:25 am Jim! Good to see ya, man!
yep, I got a mando at the lawn shop a couple weeks back, been playing it a lot...working on my banjo too.
Mar 29, 2012 12:19 pm ^^^ Deliverance comes to mind.
Quote:
Do know what's gonna be here? Right here? A lake. As far as the eyes can see. Hundreds of feet deep. HUNDREDS of feet deep. Did you ever look out over a lake and think of somethin' buried underneath it? Buried underneath it. Well man, that's just about as buried as you can get.
Mar 29, 2012 12:31 pm Cool fellas...do still have the 4 shared account? ....everything sounds cool!... It's open for everyone, Jim...welcome aboard..
Mar 29, 2012 12:47 pm I never did have a 4 shared account
Mar 29, 2012 01:29 pm I had the 4shared info saved on my computer but for some reason now its gone. So you'll have to share it bluesy!
@Quincy: I had to google what URB is lol. I've never seen it acronym-ized. No, the closest I have is an acoustic bass that I could play all slappy like an upright. I can even set it up like an upright, I have before just for fun.
Mar 29, 2012 01:50 pm That's a great idea Quick, I've played the acoustic bass a few times and I'd love to hear it recorded.
Made some progress on the song last night with Sonny Burgess, a bigsby vibrato, and the twin reverb as my guide. Starting out with some drum flourishes, enough solo opportunities to get everyone musically introduced, and then off into the realm of a 12 bar shuffle with a bunch of callouts.
I'll be on vacation next week, planting a garden in central MS. I'm bringing my Gretsch and the iPad. I'm pretty confident I'll have something worth sharing by the end of next week.
Mar 29, 2012 04:04 pm I still have the 4shared stuff. well, memorized anyway. PM me or e-mail me for the info.
I haven't touched it since the last collab, so the old wavs are still up there hah.
Apr 04, 2012 09:00 am I been busy...but I'm hoping to get some time in the next week or so play with it. I been itchin to get in there and do something!
Apr 04, 2012 09:03 am Yep I peeped the 4shared account...you think we should delete old stuff out of there? Did everyone get the log-in info?
Apr 04, 2012 04:46 pm I need login info please
Apr 05, 2012 01:44 am Yeah lets delete the old tracks. We can leave the final mixes if you guys want, I have them both up on my soundcloud too. And obviously saved on my computer as well as the cubase sessions.
Apr 05, 2012 07:59 pm I finished working out a song today. Not rockabilly but it's a kind of slow 50's swing thing. I'll record it tomorrow and I'll have it posted by Monday . It won't be a big deal if we don't use it, I'll probably finish it either way.
Apr 05, 2012 09:21 pm Sweet! Yeah..let's leave the final tracks in there. Maybe start a new folder for this one.
Do I understand this right, the idea is to video myself as I work with the track?
Looking forward to hear what have Quincy..
I'm gonna get the details to ya Beer..
Apr 12, 2012 12:27 pm I finished the song last night, and definitely this time. It's not rockabilly, and it was almost doo-wop, but now it's a vaguely doo-wop inspired song. I need a little more practice at it with a metronome but I should be able to post it up in the next few days. Again...you won't hurt my feelings if you'd rather do a more genre centric song. I am not very good at keeping my songs within a genre. I also color outside the lines. I tried, and maybe it will work out as is...
Apr 12, 2012 02:42 pm just go with it Quince! Looking forward to hearing what you have. You should post it up as is
Apr 12, 2012 07:32 pm Lines? Where we're going we don't need lines!
I donno if anyone's absolutely married to rockabilly anyway.
Apr 12, 2012 11:39 pm Alright then. I uploaded the song to the bigbluesman 4chan account, sans metronome. It's called "Movie on 2012-04-12 at 22.05.mov". The video image needs to be flipped horizontally but I can't do that through photo booth so if someone could flip it and reupload that would probably be ideal for whoever ends up playing guitar. I think I played it at around 130 bpm-ish. I guess what I'm getting at is that I don't really feel like I have time to re-record with the correct tempo, so if someone could pick up the notes/chords and play to a click track that would be ideal. Like I said, I'm really not a very good guitar player and it gets frustrating really quickly for those with buttery fingers.
There is a much more animated, however poorly performed, video. That will probably end up in clips on our final video. Deon is the only one who has it so far. It's a terrible performance, hah.
Apr 13, 2012 02:07 am oh, can I get login info for the share account? My email as listed on this site works.
Apr 13, 2012 02:38 am I find it hard to keep acoustic performances 100% booger-free. It's like playing nude (tone wise) no creamy distortion to hide behind.
The song has a cool vibe to it. Kinda reminds me of something you'd hear in a movie where the guy is setting up a picnic for the girl or whatever. It gets a little clippy at the end and I couldn't find the bpm but I think it has potential. Cool soaring chord progression. Definitely stoked to see where it ends up. I'll probably get a bass track up in the next couple days hopefully.
Apr 13, 2012 02:42 am Something occurred to me as soon as I posted. It sounds like it has the potential to sound a lot like Sparks by Coldplay. Which is a flarping great song if you ask me! I'd be stoked to work on a song with that laid back chill vibe. Which in retrospect is completely different than the rockabilly sound we started out with. Maybe this can be one on the side or something. Maybe just you and me Quince!
In case nobody wants to look it up, here it is. I love this band...
Apr 13, 2012 04:23 am and havent been able to play it bro, it wont open, so yer safe so far. hahaha.
Apr 13, 2012 04:49 am Yeah, I'm hearing the harmonic similarities between the two. I'm sure once we start laying down the structure and everything (maybe work on extending so we can fit in everyone who wants to be in on it) everything will start falling into place. I'm pretty easy, I'll just improv/comp where needed. xD
I think electric keys will work well with this kinda theme. Maybe a nice creamy Rhodes or Wurlitzer style. Throw in some warm fuzzy bass. And some acoustic, or maybe even clean electric guitars. Keeping it light and fluffy. Or.....something like that anyway haha. :)
Quick's food/picnic reference makes me think we should dub this one Cotton Candy xD I jest! We'll call it cream pie. Okay, no seriously, French Silk? Cookies n' Cream? okay, these desserts that I actually like are NOT getting my brain outta the gutter. >_<
Oh, oh, I know! TIRAMISU!!!!!~~~~~ <3 **** I want one of those now. *plans a trip to the Java House tomorrow*
Apr 13, 2012 11:17 am That's a good point about distortion Quick, I'll try it on my electric this weekend. And yeah I'm certainly interested in collaborating on a project, I've always liked your work a lot. I don't mind redoing this song with you in addition to this collab.
Good point J-Bot, gotta make sure everyone's in on it, but I'm hoping we can keep the structure more or less the same. I still think it's possible. I definitely hear space for Mandolin during the chorus'. During the biggest chorus with all the unrestrained strumming near the end, I'm thinking Deon could do something with that crushing guitar tone he uses in his songs. Still need a drummer, so Hippie's part is there. I agree that a Rhodes E Piano would be awesome in this. Coolo could even rap on this if he gets the inspiration, but anything else would be cool too. I know he has congas or something and if one happens to be in the right key or is able to be tuned to pitch that would probably be cool during a verse. I guess I could go ahead with the guitar recording but move to electric so we don't hear my flubs so readily. There's room for another electric guitar part/tone, and I'm sure BigBluesMan and/or Jim will kill that. Quick on Bass. BH on the mix. I'm think putting doowop vocals in there will take care of any one else who wants to get involved.
Haha J-Bot, no picnic is complete without cotton candy! I'm glad this song is striking you as a romantic song. I don't typically write songs that could be considered romantic songs.
I think that covers everyone.
Apr 13, 2012 01:26 pm If you guys want I can program some drums to use as a click. this way I can throw in a fill to help with the changes. Also, I do hear a bit of rap vox and a gang vox chorus... will have to see as things move along.
Anyways, should I put together a quick click track?
Apr 13, 2012 01:53 pm Thanks for sending the login info quincy. I like this so far.
So, we have the video stuff... but we should record the audio seperately?
Apr 13, 2012 03:21 pm I'll play with tempo tonight BH. I'd like to get the scratch track/tempo done before we start the recording. I have a busy weekend but I think this is do-able before Monday. I'll try!
Right Coolo. I probably won't use the version of the video I uploaded in the music video. When I did a music video a few years back the idea was to play the song the way you want it to look and then splice it in with the recording as best you can. Or you could just record the real take like I did here and overlay it on the final arrangement with the others.
Apr 13, 2012 03:28 pm I think it would proably be best to hold off on the video until after the song is done. Then record the video to the song.... lip sync so to speak. Would be a lot easier I'm thinkin'
Apr 13, 2012 07:20 pm i cant wait to to hear/see this one lads.....will watch over a couple Asahi's.....(licks lips)
Apr 14, 2012 11:16 pm Sorry fellas...I been away.. I lost my brother about a week ago... and this is the 1st time I've peeked at HRC...Please just keep doing what your doing...It may take a while to get my mojo back.
Apr 14, 2012 11:42 pm BBM, so sorry to hear. Take all the time you need bro. Music and anything really comes second to family and loved ones. Take care.
May 03, 2012 03:20 pm Hi fellas..I hope everyone is doing well. maybe in the next week or 2 I'd like to see what we got so far, and maybe get involved. I was all pumped up about getting reaper, and my rig is working flawlessly, but I just don't have any drive to go in there. My mind still ain't right. I really miss my brother, and I can't think of anything else right now. Thanks for your understanding.
May 04, 2012 12:57 am Take your time to get right BBM. My condolences out to you and your family.
May 04, 2012 01:18 pm Terribly sorry to hear this man. I'm a little pre-occupied right now too. Certainly don't feel rushed for our sake.
I haven't had a chance to re-record the guitar part with a metronome but I did upload one of the choruses for this song. It's just a rough draft and about 30 seconds long but the lyrics/melody is headed this direction.
file is collabchorus05042012
May 04, 2012 01:34 pm Oh, dude, take the time you need, that is a tough one, thoughts and prayers are with ya, bro.
May 19, 2012 08:20 pm Hmmm, was just thinking on a whim about potential names for our collab groups.
How does "The Home Rec'ers" sound? xD
May 29, 2012 01:13 pm I think I'm overdoing my contribution to this collaboration, so I uploaded what I have done so far with hopes that the Home Rec'ers will complete the song. I can keep going if we want, but I don't know if that would be in the collaborative spirit. The file that's kind of a rough draft of where I think this song could go is "MOTORCYCLECOLLAB05292012.mp3". Of course, we could just start over with the vocals if someone else wants to do them. Either way I also uploaded the guitar arrangement+click track as "motorcycleCLICKTRACK05262012.mp3" I probably should have just stuck with the guitar/click track but eh...there it is. Take it or leave it, I won't be offended if we don't keep the vocals. We can also speed up the song too, currently at 110bpm. Feel free to time warp it in the DAW of choice and re-upload if you're going to be the next Home Rec'er to carry the flag in this project. Let me know where I can help.
Jun 02, 2012 12:23 pm I checked it out and have some ideas... but man, am I going to twist this up!. I figure by day's end this will go from Modest Mouse to Blind Melonish.... well something in that vain. I'll be out of town the week of the 11th, so it may be towards the end of June before I have any official tracks posted. Regardless..... HERE WE GO!!!
Jun 03, 2012 10:52 am awesome! looking forward to it! When you're done I'll re-record the guitar parts over your drums so we're both in the same groove. Those big strummed chords at the end are eventually going to be bent up a full step at the beginning of each 1 count with my Bigsby. Sounds kinda shoegazey, seems to round things out at the end.
Jun 13, 2012 01:01 pm Sorry I been away for so long....I havnt been to the 4shared....hows it going? Sounds like you guys are finishing up. I'm gonna try to listen to whats been done tonight..I'm so glad you guys ran with this...Cheers!!
Jun 14, 2012 07:00 pm Just getting started, actually! I was very sloooow on this. Sorry. Click tracks and rough drafts are up for noodling on your parts though. I guess I could kind of outline how I think this will probably play out, of course any of this is open to revision:
1.) Guitar/click track (done)
2.) Vocal rough draft (done)
3.) Drums (Hippie is working on it now)
4.) Bass (Quickxkid)
I think it's crucial to focus on the rhythm section first and get it tight.
5,6,7,8,9.) Redo guitar scratch track to match drum groove (Me), Keyboards (J-Bot), Mandolin (DB), Guitars (guitarjim, bigbluesman), heavy guitar section (Dematrix...I have an idea for you if that's cool)
10.) Redo vocals (me)
11.) rap/conga's (Coolo)
12.) Anything else anyone wants to do (anybody)
13.) Mix (BH)
Jun 14, 2012 11:50 pm I was thinking if I do any vocals it will be more singing than rapping.
Jun 15, 2012 10:02 am Are you guys using the 4shared ? I looked in there last night and found an acoustic guitar track ... and a harmony track....but there is so much stuff in there I cant tell what is what...could one of you guys create a project folder, and move all this new project to it?? Mucho appreicated...I feel like I'm starting to get my groove...
Jun 15, 2012 08:29 pm @Quincy yeah man shoot.
Jun 17, 2012 05:05 pm I've moved the files into a "Quincy Collab" folder. I'll try to get some work done on this later this week (just got back home). Things at home are a little hectic for me right now.. but don't count me out yet!! =)
Jun 19, 2012 10:52 pm Thanks hippie...checkin out the files...nice acoustic work...some vocals, harmonies...I gotta see how it shapes up before I would have an idea for it...keep it going fellas...it's art...we gotta see where it takes us..
Jun 20, 2012 06:33 pm I'm starting tracking for a 4 song EP this Monday. It includes this song and 3 others, should come in at about 16 minutes. First solo songwriting project for me, and doing free recordings for 3 years has put me into contact with lots of awesome players who are happy to help with favors. It's going to be a wild recording, and I'm actually shelling out some money to do it in a "proper" studio with some great, well maintained gear. Going through a '70's MCI board, Neve's, Neumann's and AKG's oh my! So far I've got players for upright bass, oboe, clarinet, flute, trumpet, alto sax, bari sax, violin, tabla, along with the usual rock instruments. Should be a pretty huge production. I'm a big Zappa fan, I'm shooting for something kind of like that. Wish me luck!
Jun 21, 2012 12:05 pm *confused.
Are we still doing a collab?
Jun 21, 2012 02:38 pm Sorry, yes, we are. I'm just working on it independently as well. I should have clarified. I'm re-using this song for my project. I'm interested to see how the two different versions come together differently.
Jun 28, 2012 06:45 pm Gents and Djents,
I may have led you astray. This song has some pretty strange time signature changes and presented some issues when we tried to track drums to it on Monday. You would not offend me if you want to try someone elses tune. If you think you can tackle drums still Hippie I'd be interested to check it out. Or alternatively, auxiliary percussion stuff might be appropriate. Any way this shakes out is fine by me.
Jun 29, 2012 01:32 am It is a challenging piece, I think.
(Yay, look at me not adding anything new to the conversation).
Jun 29, 2012 03:01 pm Quote:
If you think you can tackle drums still Hippie I'd be interested to check it out.
Challenge accepted!!!
I should be able to do something with this... this week. I no longer have a wife as of last week, so I got nothing but time!!!
Jun 30, 2012 07:50 pm *winces* Ouch. Don't kill the drum heads too badly? xD
It's been a rough year for some of us. It's also been a good year for others. But you know, we take the good with the bad, turn it around, do what we need to do, and keep going. That's life I guess.
Hmmm.....that could almost be a chorus. :P
Jun 30, 2012 07:52 pm "Ya take the good, you take the bad you take them both and there you have, the facts of life..."
OK, I just totally dated myself, but seriously, Jo was way hotter than Blair...LOL
Jun 30, 2012 08:24 pm Hmmm, maybe what was in my head was something subconscious. :P Or possibly subliminal, lol! I'm sure "The Facts of Life" was still around when I was a kid. We generally got all the old shows since we just had antenna, and network TV. No cable for me growing up, haha.
Anyway, see? I said it could be a chorus. xD
Jul 05, 2012 10:25 am OK guys..... don't hate me here!
I'm probably going to be away for the next couple of weekends, which is really putting a strain on what I can/can't do for this song. I already feel like I'm the biggest holdup at this point and don't want to be 'that guy.' So if anyone wants to take a stab at this to move things forward, then by all means.... do it. This whole separation thing just has my mind on bigger issues and really taking a toll on me. I really do apologize....
Jul 05, 2012 12:53 pm Hippie, as always, take care of yourself! This stuff can always wait and is small potatoes in the scheme of things.
If I may suggest, I think we need to regroup and replan this collab anyways. I was thinking we should probably go through these steps to get this to come together.
1) Create a drum track with a basic verse, verse, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus structure... or along those lines. (I could do this)
2) Add a basic chord progression with acoustic
3) Add a complimentary bass line and keys
4) Add lead guitar
5) Write lyrics and track vocals
6) Track live drums
7) Mix and master
8) collect 1 million dollars
Anyways, something like that. Basically it would be a structured jam and everyone could take a crack at any part and then vote for the best version.
Just an idea
Jul 06, 2012 01:36 am Well, if we want to keep Quincy's general idea, I suppose I could create a structure in Jamstix 3, and give it a bit of a shuffled beat. Intro, verse, chorus, outro, or whatever. If there are a lot of meter changes, that could take me some time to figure out in jamstix, well, to get it right anyway.
Otherwise if we want to do something completely different, I can probably just create a basic song structure. Thing is though, Jamstix doesn't really work that well without audio or midi data going through it, and I totally suck at programming acoustic drum tracks >_<
The first thing we did, "Is It Possible" started with my bass track, and I tried to give that a bit of structure along with the drum track, and then Hippie took those ideas, and produced the real deal, and I went back to change the bass to fit better (and to correct the timings) That piece is still up on Quick's soundcloud btw. It turned out pretty well. :)
Otherwise...yeah, someone else can do it, and I can just focus on the keys work. Feel free to do whatever you want. Rock, funk, jazz, acoustic, whatever. :) Plus my Nord Lead 2x will be arriving monday (which is in very good condition, and I got it for a great price! $725 + shipping) B-)
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